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SirMrFailRomp: Fine, push us into a tie.

Vote SirMrFailRomp

I meant what I said about breaking ties.
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ZFR: Seriously???? How is that good in any coceivable way?
This way he can switch back to micro at 1 second to deadline, and force the tie? Or hammer if the opportunity presents itself? If he believes he's caught scum, I can see that play making sense (even if I don't really believe it; mostly a hypothetical).
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ZFR: No lynch is bad but the alternative, 100% Town lynch from your point of view if you're Town, is worse.
It's bad from a purely selfish point of view, but it would give a wagon to analyse and I really don't like yours and Trent's play in the last few minutes. Deliberately balancing the wagons strikes me as a deliberate attempt to cause chaos.

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Carradice: This!
I've already unvoted but I'm still not happy with the situation at all.

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gogtrial34987: This way he can switch back to micro at 1 second to deadline, and force the tie? Or hammer if the opportunity presents itself? If he believes he's caught scum, I can see that play making sense (even if I don't really believe it; mostly a hypothetical).
No. I don't want a tie. You should be looking at the people who drove us to a tie.
Given the three viable wagons,

Carradice: will self-resolve on D2 any way (if left alive)
Micro: Reading Town.
SPF: Not sure, possible scum or Town.

I'm leaving my vote on SPF.

The 4th alternative is a conscious no-lynch by a tie, but I don't think that's a good idea in any way.
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ZFR: Seriously???? How is that good in any coceivable way?
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gogtrial34987: This way he can switch back to micro at 1 second to deadline, and force the tie? Or hammer if the opportunity presents itself? If he believes he's caught scum, I can see that play making sense (even if I don't really believe it; mostly a hypothetical).
We'd have a certified scum pick for Day 2 if he did this.
Seriously, guys, think about the effor that SPF and Micro have been putting into the game. But Lift on Day 1?? What do you think?
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Carradice:
Please make a decision if you're going for SPF or micro, so SPF can claim if you are intending to go for him, or so you can both vote for micro with plenty of time to spare?
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ZFR: No lynch is bad but the alternative, 100% Town lynch from your point of view if you're Town, is worse.
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SirMrFailRomp: It's bad from a purely selfish point of view, but it would give a wagon to analyse and I really don't like yours and Trent's play in the last few minutes. Deliberately balancing the wagons strikes me as a deliberate attempt to cause chaos.

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Carradice: This!
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SirMrFailRomp: I've already unvoted but I'm still not happy with the situation at all.

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gogtrial34987: This way he can switch back to micro at 1 second to deadline, and force the tie? Or hammer if the opportunity presents itself? If he believes he's caught scum, I can see that play making sense (even if I don't really believe it; mostly a hypothetical).
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SirMrFailRomp: No. I don't want a tie. You should be looking at the people who drove us to a tie.
There was no balancing of wagons, of the wagons I prefer you over Micro. How is that balancing when I vote for who I think is a better lynch do the two wagons?
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SirMrFailRomp: Deliberately balancing the wagons strikes me as a deliberate attempt to cause chaos.
What. Aleternative. Did. I. Have?

Vote the claimed Cop? Vote Micro whom I belive Town? Maybe start a 6th wagon or vote Peeves for the lulz? No, I'm not purposely voting for a tie, and I don't think trent was either.
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SirMrFailRomp: It's bad from a purely selfish point of view, but it would give a wagon to analyse and I really don't like yours and Trent's play in the last few minutes. Deliberately balancing the wagons strikes me as a deliberate attempt to cause chaos.

I've already unvoted but I'm still not happy with the situation at all.

No. I don't want a tie. You should be looking at the people who drove us to a tie.
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trentonlf: There was no balancing of wagons, of the wagons I prefer you over Micro. How is that balancing when I vote for who I think is a better lynch do the two wagons?
The wagons were balanced and no lynch was in play

SPF screams town when he is the one who unbalances the wagons

We're in a situation where if SPF isn't town he can save himself to Day 2 by re-voting for Microfish or Caradice
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Carradice: Seriously, guys, think about the effor that SPF and Micro have been putting into the game. But Lift on Day 1?? What do you think?
I'd be okay with Lift, though prefer SPF.
Do we have the numbers for Lift?

You, me - need two more.
And I'll only do this if you'd prefer micro over SPF, so please make that choice explicit?
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ZFR: What. Aleternative. Did. I. Have?

Vote the claimed Cop? Vote Micro whom I belive Town? Maybe start a 6th wagon or vote Peeves for the lulz? No, I'm not purposely voting for a tie, and I don't think trent was either.
Sure, your D1 read of Micro has to be a sure thing, right? No choice but to vote for the distant third place wagon and balance it up with Micro.

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Carradice: Seriously, guys, think about the effor that SPF and Micro have been putting into the game. But Lift on Day 1?? What do you think?
Don't sit on your hands, pick one of us.
I'm NAI on Lift, like I am on SPF. Wouldn't like to do it for a player who's away, but compared to Micro and Carradice I'm ok.
Apparently I messed up, when I fixed the quotes. This disappeared.

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FlockeSchnee: "eavesdrop secure method" refers to all Mafia/Neutrals (I take from the wiki, that SK's don't come in pairs or more), although I did get confused a bit about people mentioning Masons in combination with Mafia. According to the rules only non-town have that special chat. Which leaves Mafia and Neutrals.
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Microfish_1: The wiki page on Masons states,

"Masons are absolutely 100% Town; just as with the Mafia's private communication, it is up to the moderator whether the Private Topic is usable both Day and Night, or at Night only (although an Encryptor in the masonry will of course allow it to be used at any time regardless of the decision). "
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Microfish_1: Note that some mods put scum in a mason chat anyway, just to throw everyone into confusion.

I have never seen two SK on the same team that I recall, though I have seen a game that had a SK and a 3rd-party JOAT with a NK.
6. Non-Town factions of two or more members have access to a 24/7 chat, running parallel to this thread.
That/Those Mafia Mason/s would be talking to themselves.
Unless, This Mafia/Town-Mason-Mix would be their own faction, which sound complicated. I'm trying to keep thigs simple.


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Carradice: I am not sure if it makes a difference. This is not a role that I like. I hated it since game #64. I am a Cop. I prefer games with no cops.
This is so anti-town.

The only thing I could find is this: (but I only searched for cop results and only in game 64)
"About cops, why holding so much faith in a townie cop to solve our problems? Even if we do have one, he has not claimed and he cannot let us know openly. So, there is no substitute for us doing our work. "
post 623 in game64


But I have the niggeling feeling, that something like this happened before in a game I skimmed. Probably month ago though.


Where are we on vote count? Does everyone agree on no-lynch? If not I need to know now, I will be offline in a few minutes.
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Carradice: Seriously, guys, think about the effor that SPF and Micro have been putting into the game. But Lift on Day 1?? What do you think?
Actually, "effort" from SPF? Lift has been a shining example of coasting, but SPF has been giving nothing!

Do we really have two scum wagons?
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ZFR: What. Aleternative. Did. I. Have?

Vote the claimed Cop? Vote Micro whom I belive Town? Maybe start a 6th wagon or vote Peeves for the lulz? No, I'm not purposely voting for a tie, and I don't think trent was either.
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SirMrFailRomp: Sure, your D1 read of Micro has to be a sure thing, right? No choice but to vote for the distant third place wagon and balance it up with Micro.
Of course it's not. But if I have someone being say 70% Town and someone being 50%, I'd vote for the 50.