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LASER97: If I were the vigilante, Scene would be dead already.
Is your Vote broken?
I would switch my vote, but I'm fearful of a no lynch. Scene may also be protecting Micro.
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LASER97: I would switch my vote, but I'm fearful of a no lynch.
Are you gong to be offline till Sunday evening so you can't switch it back to Micro?
If Scene's unwillingness to vote Micro isn't damning enough for you, look at how in sync they were earlier.

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Microfish_1: so, to provide an alternative to my wagon, i will be the dreaded third-seventh and
vote Lifthrasil
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supplementscene: I'd like if everyone state their preferred lynches. Mine are:

1. Liftrasil - 3rd on a wagon off what was imo an overreaction from everyone doesn't sit right. Although apparently there's some history in recent games, but nah it still doesn't sit right with me. I'd lean to this being Scum Lift over Town Lift. On the other hand his vote on Microfish makes more sense from a town Lift.
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LASER97: If Scene's unwillingness to vote Micro isn't damning enough for you, look at how in sync they were earlier.

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Microfish_1: so, to provide an alternative to my wagon, i will be the dreaded third-seventh and
vote Lifthrasil
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LASER97: #204

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supplementscene: I'd like if everyone state their preferred lynches. Mine are:

1. Liftrasil - 3rd on a wagon off what was imo an overreaction from everyone doesn't sit right. Although apparently there's some history in recent games, but nah it still doesn't sit right with me. I'd lean to this being Scum Lift over Town Lift. On the other hand his vote on Microfish makes more sense from a town Lift.
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LASER97:
I'd think scumbuddies would avoid blatant vote-copying and in fact distance more.

But yes, scene's reaction to Micro did change my view on the latter. I'll vote to avoid no lynch, but would rather explore the possibility to vote scene instead.

I'll be online till deadline to switch to Micro if necessary,
5 hours ago it was stated that "The Elimination Phase will end in a day or two, mostly likely sunday evening".
So it's not necessary Sunday evening, it could Monday something.
Plus we might have 1 extra day if Miss Lonzi is not returning soon.

In other words: Sunday evening (earliest possible deadline) - Tuesday something (latest possible deadline).

Current wagon lead:
4 - Mike the Fish (Microfish_1) - Lifthrasil, SirPrimalform, LASER97, Pookina) > L-3

And I don't want to place my vote on Micro: it's the laziest vote ever with zero to none analyzing. He claimed to be Town, he even provided statistics (7 games in a row, yet there was 1 flaw with Sultan game). I don't believe Mafia would ever dare to be so blunt. And let's imagine that he is indeed a Mafia and he is planning to trick us, would anyone of us think of him like of a good person afterwards? I know GOG Mafia is a game of lying and bluff, but never again anyone would take Micro's word seriously and he could never ever say in some GOG Mafia Game #99 something like: "Hey, I was Mafia once in that GOG Mafia Game #94, but it's my 5th time I'm Town so your vote would be a waste", he would be instantly lynched.

Is it possible that he wants to go *all in* just this once only to loose respect out of boredom (or for any other reason)? Yes, it's possible. But I would never bet my word to win one time only to be called a liar the rest of my [gaming] life. And yes, I see a difference between a bluff in Mafia game and between a bluff backed up with history/statistics. The latter for me personally is the same as facts forgery, you can win a case but you'll get your license revoked for life (court system).

If I had to choose between Micro or someone else I would prefer someone else, at least on Day 1. We can lynch Micro any day, I propose we find a real target toDay
Am back, mostly healthy and mostly caught up. Thanks for all the kind wishes. My thoughts on the game are still swimming around in my head. I think cadavar is my only actual townread. Have found myself kind of anchoring emotionally with cristi and ZFR because their playstyles are more familiar to me than others so I don't think I want to lynch them today. Don't see myself voting Pooka either, am holding on to my early take there even if I haven't seen much from them since then and would prefer to see how that unfolds.

Warily townreading cadavar for the weird mood stuff in their exchange with Primal, I feel like I'm maybe being baited into townreading it but not going to stress too much over that world right now given he only has two completed games of mafia. I don't really understand what that whole interaction was about or what was actually going on in cadavar's head there and don't super want to touch it, but even without solid reasoning around his perspective there I think his treatment of primal is maybe too much of a bad touch moment if he's a wolf.

Kind of like Lasat's posts around 229, I've chickened out of townreading things like this in the past because the actual reasoning behind it is pretty hugely eh, but am in the mood for just going with it for now so don't really want to vote there today either.

Lift/Micro probably where I would lynch today if I had to vote right now, don't feel strongly about either. A couple people have mentioned townreads on lift without giving reasoning (unless I missed it) so if you could talk about why that would be helpful, don't find his reads / approach to the game understandable and his "cadavar/spf is tvt" thing felt kind of slimy, not entirely sure if the understatedness is TMI or tone or something else, probably not hugely indicaitve one way or the other ultimately since I can't really seem to put it into words.

I've run out of time but micro isn't below null for me so much as a slot I have no real read on / haven't seen anything to make me think I could clear him, pending a reread at least. (Speaking of which, is there any way to ISO people here?)
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Cadaver747: 5 hours ago it was stated that "The Elimination Phase will end in a day or two, mostly likely sunday evening".
So it's not necessary Sunday evening, it could Monday something.
Plus we might have 1 extra day if Miss Lonzi is not returning soon.

In other words: Sunday evening (earliest possible deadline) - Tuesday something (latest possible deadline).

Current wagon lead:
4 - Mike the Fish (Microfish_1) - Lifthrasil, SirPrimalform, LASER97, Pookina) > L-3

And I don't want to place my vote on Micro: it's the laziest vote ever with zero to none analyzing. He claimed to be Town, he even provided statistics (7 games in a row, yet there was 1 flaw with Sultan game). I don't believe Mafia would ever dare to be so blunt. And let's imagine that he is indeed a Mafia and he is planning to trick us, would anyone of us think of him like of a good person afterwards? I know GOG Mafia is a game of lying and bluff, but never again anyone would take Micro's word seriously and he could never ever say in some GOG Mafia Game #99 something like: "Hey, I was Mafia once in that GOG Mafia Game #94, but it's my 5th time I'm Town so your vote would be a waste", he would be instantly lynched.

Is it possible that he wants to go *all in* just this once only to loose respect out of boredom (or for any other reason)? Yes, it's possible. But I would never bet my word to win one time only to be called a liar the rest of my [gaming] life. And yes, I see a difference between a bluff in Mafia game and between a bluff backed up with history/statistics. The latter for me personally is the same as facts forgery, you can win a case but you'll get your license revoked for life (court system).

If I had to choose between Micro or someone else I would prefer someone else, at least on Day 1. We can lynch Micro any day, I propose we find a real target toDay
I barely even townread you and you're already making me paranoid, great.
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lonzi: I barely even townread you and you're already making me paranoid, great.
It's okay to be paranoid, I'm paranoid all the time. I can't think Micro is Mafia only because he said he is Town. I want all of us to imagine ourselves in Micro's shoes with that "I'm so Town, I'm always Town" statement. Is it worth it in the end when everyone will know the truth?
Oh Cadaver, what are you doing?

I hope Microfish isn't scum, because that would mean this game is way too easy.
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LASER97: Oh Cadaver, what are you doing?

I hope Microfish isn't scum, because that would mean this game is way too easy.
Please clarify the first sentence.
Pleading for us to not lynch Microfish at the end of day one, is not making me any more inclined to stop voting for him.
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Cadaver747: In other words: Sunday evening (earliest possible deadline) - Tuesday something (latest possible deadline).
Most likely Sunday.
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LASER97: Pleading for us to not lynch Microfish at the end of day one, is not making me any more inclined to stop voting for him.
I'm not pleading at the end of Day one (we have 1 or 2 days left - 6 hours) to not lynch Micro.
I'm asking all of you to THINK: would it be beneficial for a human being to win a game once only to be called a liar and get a lynch in subsequent Mafia games which he loves so much. Unless Micro is dying, I don't think so.

And that you're *hoping* that Micro is not scum yet willing to vote him is *perfectly fine* of course. Look at you, you ignored 2 of my posts but you are here with your implication. Please tell me if you even thought of me like I'm a scum (another scum even). I will not overreact. And pretty please check 2 of my unanswered posts.
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Cadaver747: He claimed to be Town, he even provided statistics (7 games in a row, yet there was 1 flaw with Sultan game).
How on earth would those statistics matter to his current alignment?


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lonzi: ...
Did you play Mafia elsewhere before?