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blotunga: Dunno, you like me? :P or you hate me

Btw good game scumteam. I was fairly sure flub is scum.
Like like like like like

Also, thank you!

By the way

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trentonlf: Great game mafia! Nice win after a rough N1 and me stopping bookwyrm’s NK on N2.
I just read the Maf- err, admin thread...Night 3 is fascinating.

trent: "Hey Pooka! I'm protecting you!"
Pooka: "Oh why, thank you so ever much!"
shoots trent dead
Pooka: "I appreciate it!"
Post edited July 04, 2019 by PookaMustard
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PookaMustard: So entertain me a bit here. What did you think of my play as mafia, including both during Day and Night? If you were town, would I appear Town to you instead?
Well I am generally a pretty terrible town player. There were a couple of moments where I thought you said something kind of scummy, but I can't remember exactly when any more and that might have just been confirmation bias because I knew you were scum. I think generally you did pretty well!
You were great this game, by the way. You were a lot more active and in some cases sassy than usual which was lovely. I like this flub, keep it up, please!
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PookaMustard: So entertain me a bit here. What did you think of my play as mafia, including both during Day and Night? If you were town, would I appear Town to you instead?
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SirPrimalform: Well I am generally a pretty terrible town player. There were a couple of moments where I thought you said something kind of scummy, but I can't remember exactly when any more and that might have just been confirmation bias because I knew you were scum. I think generally you did pretty well!
The D4 long post which Bookwyrm pointed to.
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SirPrimalform: Well I am generally a pretty terrible town player. There were a couple of moments where I thought you said something kind of scummy, but I can't remember exactly when any more and that might have just been confirmation bias because I knew you were scum. I think generally you did pretty well!
I thought I would've been THE Day 4 lynch, and from there, many hints could lead back to dedo, from one of the points in gogtrial's lists about how he reacted to my clearing along with GameRager and someone else.

Heck, even his pointing out of reactions to the uneventful N2 freaked me out. Just by the presence of the messages, if he had just made the connection with only these messages...these thoughts freaked me out. I was glad to have gogtrial in my pockets until he just up and suddenly raised me from probably scummy at only 3% to a whopping 50% in one fell swoop. By then, I knew that if I was going out soon, it'd help to capitalize on flub. Thankfully Micro ninja'd me with that, and since Micro was lock Town, you can tell that town Bookwyrm went along with his reads, and as dedo said last page, this happened.

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dedoporno: But if [gogtrial]'s Town and Pooka is indeed mafia it will cost everyone Town dearly.
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ZFR: The D4 long post which Bookwyrm pointed to.
Ah yes, that was one of them.
I'm terribly sorry. I failed. I hope Book didn't follow me just because I was lock-town. I was a bit surprised he wasn't as aggressive as last game.
Pooka I wanted to give the benifit of the doubt to, and Gogtrials attack of book made a lot of sense--until Book spoke up, at which point Book made a lot of sense and Vice-versa. It is clearer now as to why, as both were arguing fully from town!them perspective and had truth as they saw it to back them up.

But which are the two who ride into the sunset?
Joe/ZFR?
ZFR/Lift?
Dedo/Pooka?
Post edited July 04, 2019 by Microfish_1
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Microfish_1: But which are the two who ride into the sunset?
Joe/ZFR?
ZFR/Lift?
Dedo/Pooka?
It's Joe & ZFR. Lift doesn't know how to ride a horse and I've never heard of this "Dedo" and "Pooka" of which you speak.


Oh yes I almost forgot.



MIIIIIIIICROOOOOOOOOOFIIIIIIIIIIIISSSHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! D:<
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JoeSapphire: It's Joe & ZFR. Lift doesn't know how to ride a horse and I've never heard of this "Dedo" and "Pooka" of which you speak.

Oh yes I almost forgot.

MIIIIIIIICROOOOOOOOOOFIIIIIIIIIIIISSSHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! D:<
Thanks for the info.

meep.

Sorry. I pegged you as scum on D2, but didn't act (in order to be sure of hitting scum), then nearly flipped a coin to decide Joe vs Flub, and went with you based off of earlier, longer feelings. I kinda wish I had saved it for another night. Then again, as lurky as I am, I would have been NKd, which would have been better for the team, perhaps, if I did lead town awry. I have played 3 mafia games, and have only properly seen scum 1x (Scene, after his colossal oops regarding roles in #57).

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PookaMustard: ADDENDUM: I can't be the one to implicate any future flailing Microfish plays, as he can easily bring up the argument that I trusted him in the SH game based on the flailing, and that using it against him in this scenario is an opposite of what liberal me did.
I...never thought of that, you scum. ;)
Post edited July 04, 2019 by Microfish_1
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Microfish_1: I have played 3 mafia games, and have only properly seen scum 1x (Scene, after his colossal oops regarding roles in #57).
Pretty good stats proportionally. Better than most people on the site's I'd expect. You should maybe retire to preserve your victory.


Nah... throw yourself back into the fray!
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Microfish_1: I...never thought of that, you scum. ;)
Since you seem to be reading onto the night chat rigoriously, I'll release the start of Day 4 notes that I scribbled on my phone :)

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SirPrimalform: ...
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dedoporno: ...
Pinging my scumfriends too!
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Mafia couldn't ask for a better Night! I'm ecstatic!

From the scum formation of two goons, one roleblocker and one Serial Killer, we know there were TTT drawn.

From GameRager, we know one B (Blocker) was drawn.

From Night 3 alone, we know that:
- there was a Doctor and a One-Shot Doctor. Basically DD.
- Joe was killed by means of a vigilante, there is no doubt about it. Since one letter is left, V, that means the Vigilante is One Shot.

And thus, the full roles setup is as follows:

TTTDDBV

With the doctors and the roleblockers dead, and the Vigilante having wasted his one-shot, ALL REMAINING TOWN ARE POWERLESS.

I am so filled with excitement! If we play our Day right, then the game is in the bag for us! All thanks to that vigilante who just wiped Joe for us!

Now now, there is still Day 4. The players that are currently alive are:

- Pooka
- dedoporno
- gogtrial
- Microfish
- Bookwyrm
- flubbucket

We're at Lynch-or-Lose! Town knows they're probably at Mislynch-and-Lose! All we need to do is take out Microfish. Or Bookwyrm. Or even flubbucket. As long as we keep gogtrial pocketed and in my favor, and as long as nobody bats an eye towards Batm- I mean dedoporno, we'll win this.

But even by pure chance, and assuming Town is basically RNG, there is basically a 16.SatanSatan7% chance of me or dedo being lynched. Actually, 1/6 is cleaner. As you can see, this is bad. But if you're reading this, dedo, then we've already won, eh?

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So, on to the claims. This is very important as town is likely to start mass claiming now. This is where the room for error is minimized.

As gogtrial said, it's either one of these two setups:

- TTTDDBV
- T??DDBV

You were right dedo. We COULDN'T hide our numbers forever. We were found just by that amazing, lucky night.

I know myself the best, so I'll quickly run the gamut when it comes to the claims

- One Shot Cop: No way in Hell. Town!Pooka would have used this power on Scene Night 1 and avoided his wagon on the third Day. I did nothing of the sort. Claiming 1-shot cop is an instant lynch.
- Cop: Even worse than above, because I need to have avoided several wagons now.
- One-Shot Roleblocker: Way too rare. Not sure how to play it. Would Town!Pooka roleblock somebody on N2? But he wasn't on that person's wagon, right? He was on scene's. Maybe I could claim I roleblocked scene and mislynched him on the basis that when I did roleblock him, no night kills happened. Way too convenient to be honest.
- Doctor: Basically suggesting it is DDDDTBV. A bit of a stretch. Plus, I sure was a bad doctor.
- Vigilante: I can claim to be a full Vigilante, but I sure messed up too bad.

That leaves me with:
- Vanilla Town.
It would make the most sense for me. It would explain why I kept pursuing scene, thinking I found possible scum. It would explain why I thought GameRager was not believable. It would explain how I thought blotunga appeared town to me.

Dedo may have better luck...wait a sec. No. You wanted to claim one-shot doctor. The page says there can only be ever a single one shot doctor at any time. That title goes to JoeSapphire. If Joe wasn't killed off by our beloved vigilante, Joe would have counterclaimed and put dedo at risk. Yikes! I'm glad this night happened. The one shot doctor claim could've been disastrous if only Trent fell dead.

Crap, I didn't organize any plans to bum-rush the votes if a player gets two votes. With 6 players left, four are needed to lynch. If two townies were so reckless as to vote a person to two, we could have bum rushed it at agreed time intervals and ended the game immediately. There is NOTHING stopping us from the night kill now. I should have planned this better.

So, we do need to wing it. There is no room to dawdle around. It's either Mislynch. Or Lose.

Alternatively it can be No Lynch. In which cass, the pressure becomes even worse. Oh dear.
@SPF only two of them were "wonky", one of them was a representation of Old Glory, and thus should be respected! :P
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Microfish_1: @SPF only two of them were "wonky", one of them was a representation of Old Glory, and thus should be respected! :P
Whowhatnow?
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Microfish_1: But which are the two who ride into the sunset?
Joe and Dedo, of course.
Things that made me chuckle from the mafia and observer threads:
"ISO'ing gogtrial would be like scaling Everest or something. Okay, not that bad, but still."

"I wouldn't expect a Vig to kill. Town are ahead at the moment and they know it. There is no point in risking it."

"Cancel the game this must not be allowed to continue!!"

I find it interesting that so many in the observer thread had me as probable scum, while everyone in game had me as town.
I'll give you an easy town-tell for future games: if all my reads are wrong, I'm town. All my attempts at being analytical count for nothing.
Also if some of my reads are right, but I'm not managing to convince anyone.
Actually, having rolled VT yet again, you might just as well assume that I'm the new flub, and am always town.

Massive thanks to ZFR and Lift for hosting! I also really appreciate the laid back attitude to accidental post merges, though luckily this game I avoided them myself.

@Pooka: you go on the list of people I'm not ever going to underestimate again.
@Bookwyrm: I'm glad you convinced me of Pooka by the end, even if it didn't matter anymore.