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General discussionGOG Mafia #59 - Previously on Mafia...(1130 posts)(1130 posts)
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Posted June 20, 2019
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dedoporno: That's a very weak argument.

You keep referencing to those old games of your but never bothered to even point out their numbers or links. If you think I'll just go and look for them on my own I'll have to disappoint you. Unless you are counting on that in the first place.

Additionally, I don't have to check anything in previous games as I honestly don't care nor have time for it. We are playing in the current game and that's what matters to me right now. I can rely on old meta for the people I've played with but that's just an added bonus, nothing more. This is our first game together and it will probably serve me for future reference but for now everything I know about you is based on your current behavior and actions.

Even if you have played in a similar way before that in no way proves that the situation is the same this time. Just like blotunga said he was purposefully trying to play a non-AI game so his future games can make use of it (which is so pro-self but so anti-Town) there is no way for me to know that you didn't draw the scum card this time and are trying to keep the same pattern and appearances to look consistent as before so you can bring that up as some sort of defense.

And finally, if you truly are Town like you were in the games you referenced I sincerely recommend you take a step back and reconsider your "Town" play.

But I don't think you are Town.

vote GameRager
1. It may be weak but it is still there.

2. I pointed out my past games to show that that is how I play. If you don't want to look them up and want to point the finger at me without verifying my claims first(which is easy if one searches my posts in old mafia games) then that's your perogative.

3. If you are indeed town then you'd likely find some time(you'd need a few minutes to search my posts in old mafia threads) instead of just accusing me of being scum based seemingly on just my play style/ a few choices you find odd.

Also yes this is the current game but meta(play styles) usually provide a good read on if a person is town/scum or is just playing as they normally do in such games. By refusing to look such up you are acting like you don't care if you lynch a fellow town or not.

4. No it doesn't prove i'm town but it DOES prove that my play style(skimming) doesn't automatically mean i'm not town....which is what I was trying to prove.

5. You're right that I suck a bit at this sort of game but I like the gameplay and figured i'd join.

6. Well all I can say is when I flip town(if I get lynched) you guys will have egg on your face.

(I'd say more but I don't know what of our PMs/info we are allowed to reveal)
Posted June 20, 2019
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GameRager: ..........

(I'd say more but I don't know what of our PMs/info we are allowed to reveal)
You can say whatever you'd like.

Just don't "quote" your role PM.


I am Buffalo Bill, town lotioner.
Posted June 20, 2019
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GameRager: Dammit you got me....I forgot it, they, and attack helicopter. o.0

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flubbucket: No problem.

I actually identify as flatulent. And I prefer the personal pronoun "toot."

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trentonlf: ..............

My top belief for scum
flubbucket, his play for me is just off enough that I think he is scum. He gives very little away in his posts, but I find him to be more aggressive in his play that is hidden behind his humor.

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flubbucket: You absolutely should not leench me because I'll not have a chance to investigate as a cop and also I'll not have a chance to stop a Night Kill as a doctor if I'm launched.

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JoeSapphire: .............

^ can someone explain my own logic to me?
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flubbucket: Yes.
1. Lol

2. Is this role info real or you just being silly? I just have to clarify as per your posting style so far.

3. Wha?

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GameRager: ..........

(I'd say more but I don't know what of our PMs/info we are allowed to reveal)
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flubbucket: You can say whatever you'd like.

Just don't "quote" your role PM.

I am Buffalo Bill, town lotioner.
Does quoting include names/info like that?

Ah what the hell....I am town roleblocker.

(I have a name iirc but the damn PM system ate my old PMs from ZFR and the hardcopy I made is on the PC at my other place so I can't access that one yet. I will update this info with name if anyone wants it later on & I get access to that other PC)
Posted June 20, 2019
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GameRager: Ah what the hell....I am town roleblocker.
Who did you roleblock Night 1 and why?

I realise I claimed at L2 like you are now but I was vanilla and little use to Town. If your role is true you've put yourself at risk for the subsequent night phases.
Posted June 20, 2019
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GameRager: ..............

2. Is this role info real or you just being silly? I just have to clarify as per your posting style so far.

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I was alluding to thispost:


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GameRager: ...........<snip>.............

I am "worried" mainly because I might be in a position to be very helpful to town and want to be able to keep being so so I worry about being lynched and town losing that advantage.

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Posted June 20, 2019
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GameRager: Ah what the hell....I am town roleblocker.
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supplementscene: Who did you roleblock Night 1 and why?

I realise I claimed at L2 like you are now but I was vanilla and little use to Town. If your role is true you've put yourself at risk for the subsequent night phases.
I role blocked you of course(I found your longwinded defensive posts to multiple people on the first game "day" to be a bit suspect so I picked you), and I was going to do so again but at this point I don't know if i'll even be around to do so.

And yes i've put myself at risk, but I don't want the game to lose such an important role and would rather save it this way and put myself at risk via scum focus/targetting than stay silent and get lynched(and cause my fellow town to lose that advantage).

Also if I do get lynched(I hope I don't for the reasons i've stated so far and because I like playing/reading/etc) I suggest the remaining town look closely at my wagon...especially after the reveal I just made.


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GameRager: ..............

2. Is this role info real or you just being silly? I just have to clarify as per your posting style so far.

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flubbucket: I was alluding to this post:

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GameRager: ...........<snip>.............

I am "worried" mainly because I might be in a position to be very helpful to town and want to be able to keep being so so I worry about being lynched and town losing that advantage.

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flubbucket:
Oh....I was trying to reveal I had a role without actually making myself a scum target. But now that a wagon is forming i'd rather be open and save the town the advantage my role gives(if I can) than hide it and get lynched/cause a blow to town.
Posted June 20, 2019
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GameRager: .............

Oh....I was trying to reveal I had a role without actually making myself a scum target. But now that a wagon is forming i'd rather be open and save the town the advantage my role gives(if I can) than hide it and get lynched/cause a blow to town.
The term "breadcrumbing." It's not easy to do successfully.

Yours is more breadloafing with the bolding and the fearing and the razzle and the dazzle.

A good scum tactic is to convince town their role is crucial to town's success.
Posted June 20, 2019
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GameRager: .............

Oh....I was trying to reveal I had a role without actually making myself a scum target. But now that a wagon is forming i'd rather be open and save the town the advantage my role gives(if I can) than hide it and get lynched/cause a blow to town.
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flubbucket: The term "breadcrumbing." It's not easy to do successfully.

Yours is more breadloafing with the bolding and the fearing and the razzle and the dazzle.

A good scum tactic is to convince town their role is crucial to town's success.
Believe what you will. If my latest posts don't convince you nothing will.
Posted June 20, 2019
Vote Count

(When you see a vote count please quickly make sure your vote is against the correct player. Let me know if it's not)

GameRager 4 - scene, flub, Bookwyrm, dedoporno
scene 2 - Micro, GameRager
flub 2 - trent, JoeSapphire

Everyone else - 0
Not voting: Pooka, gogtrial

10 players left. It takes 6 to lynch.
GameRager is closest at L-2
Posted June 20, 2019
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JoeSapphire: ^ can someone explain my own logic to me?
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dedoporno: Your logic is entirely false but you're correct anyway - I'm indeed Town.
Would you have said "Joe's not giving me the uncomfortable vibes he was giving me last game" (or whatever it was you said) if you were mafia?
Posted June 20, 2019
I believe GameRager's claim, I think flub's jokes are very amusing...

Even if GameRager's lying, we'll be able to deal with that better in the future than we can now.


Aha though I just realised mafia can have roleblocker can't they... hmmm...
Posted June 20, 2019
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GameRager: 1. It may be weak but it is still there.
Right.


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GameRager: 3. If you are indeed town then you'd likely find some time(you'd need a few minutes to search my posts in old mafia threads) instead of just accusing me of being scum based seemingly on just my play style/ a few choices you find odd.
That's a very optimistic expectation regardless of alliance. I've never done so in the past. I've been playing on and off since game #24 or something. Maybe if you are Town you can go back and check my previous games to see that is how I play.

I'll make that even easier - if you are indeed town then you'd likely find some time to read the current game rather than skimming through it as you yourself say.
Posted June 20, 2019
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GameRager: .........
Believe what you will. If my latest posts don't convince you nothing will.
town roleblocker.....mafia roleblocker......tough call.
Posted June 20, 2019
Somehow I posted mid-post while going through the new posts and quoting stuff. Not sure how that happened.

I was going to write more stuff but I now see there is a claim and I may have to back out after all at least for a moment.


unvote GameRager


@GR, I just add something that got lost in my original post and doesn't have to do with the current alignments and such but in general - regardless of alignments I strongly suggest to consider not assuming how much time other players have for whatever just because you or someone else has that time and is ready to invest it in such a way.


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JoeSapphire: Would you have said "Joe's not giving me the uncomfortable vibes he was giving me last game" (or whatever it was you said) if you were mafia?
This is useless WIFOM though is it not? I would say whatever it takes as mafia (outside of (re)lying on RL for the sake of game advantage). That's why I said your logic doesn't make sense earlier even though you were still correct when you said I was Town.
Posted June 20, 2019
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GameRager: 3. If you are indeed town then you'd likely find some time(you'd need a few minutes to search my posts in old mafia threads) instead of just accusing me of being scum based seemingly on just my play style/ a few choices you find odd.
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dedoporno: That's a very optimistic expectation regardless of alliance. I've never done so in the past. I've been playing on and off since game #24 or something. Maybe if you are Town you can go back and check my previous games to see that is how I play.

I'll make that even easier - if you are indeed town then you'd likely find some time to read the current game rather than skimming through it as you yourself say.
1. It'd be easier for you to check me out, though, as I have only played 2 games(iirc) and not very long in each. If you wanted me to verify a particular aspect of your playstyle and could tell me which game it was in i'd be happy to oblige you, though.

2. I have been reading more lately, but I am just not good at keeping up with every small detail of every player and keeping spreadsheets of info as some likely do.

I am trying a bit harder, though. We'll see how it goes.
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