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Posted August 26, 2015
Hey there!

While GOG / CD Projekt only sells most of the games and therefore is not able to give any permissions for these games, I am wondering what CD Projekt's stance is on games they are publishing themselves.

According to an article on PC Gamer it's mentioned that CD-Project bought the licenses for the old SSI Games.
So I assume that CD Project is not the official license holder for these games, and they would be the one's who need to give permission to use their material in any Videos including monetization via youtube or twitch.

So it would be great if either a CD Project / GoG official could state their stance, or - if they already explained it somewhere, it would be great if anyone can give a link to that statement.
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Posted August 27, 2015
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Kordanor: Hey there!

While GOG / CD Projekt only sells most of the games and therefore is not able to give any permissions for these games, I am wondering what CD Projekt's stance is on games they are publishing themselves.

According to an article on PC Gamer it's mentioned that CD-Project bought the licenses for the old SSI Games.
So I assume that CD Project is not the official license holder for these games, and they would be the one's who need to give permission to use their material in any Videos including monetization via youtube or twitch.

So it would be great if either a CD Project / GoG official could state their stance, or - if they already explained it somewhere, it would be great if anyone can give a link to that statement.
Here's what I found, hope it helps:
http://thewitcher.com/videopolicy
Post edited August 27, 2015 by comradegarry
Posted August 27, 2015
Thanks. The Problem is, that this is from Projekt Red, which is the Developer of Witcher. This does not need to be equal to the Policy of CD Projekt (the publisher) itself as this is probably an individual legal entity.
Posted September 14, 2015
Hope there is an official answer at some point.
Posted September 14, 2015
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Kordanor: Hope there is an official answer at some point.
GOG employees and decision makers do not regularly read the forums. You have a slightly better chance of getting a reply by actually approaching them via "Contact Us".
Post edited September 14, 2015 by mrkgnao
Posted November 24, 2015
Did that 2 weeks ago...still no answer...
Posted November 26, 2015
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Kordanor: Did that 2 weeks ago...still no answer...
You could also try contacting one of the people who stream for GOG's Twitch channel, and see if they can give you some info or maybe get you in contact with someone who could. Try posting , or just send a chat message to one of the streamers who have posted there (I believe [url=http://www.gog.com/forum/general/whats_up_at_twitchtvgogcom_a22f7/post104]outstarwalker is still the leader of the stream team for the GOGcom channel).
Posted November 26, 2015
Have you tried asking this question on the CD Projekt RED forums? I would think that's your best bet and all :)
Posted November 26, 2015
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JudasIscariot: Have you tried asking this question on the CD Projekt RED forums? I would think that's your best bet and all :)
Not yet. But aren't CD Project and CD Project RED 2 different legal instances?

I know that Streaming and monetizing for the Witcher Games are ok. But my question is regarding old games which were aquired by CD Project, namely the SSI games.
Posted November 26, 2015
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JudasIscariot: Have you tried asking this question on the CD Projekt RED forums? I would think that's your best bet and all :)
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Kordanor: Not yet. But aren't CD Project and CD Project RED 2 different legal instances?

I know that Streaming and monetizing for the Witcher Games are ok. But my question is regarding old games which were aquired by CD Project, namely the SSI games.
CD Projekt or GOG Ltd? The latter is what the game pages here on GOG states as the current publisher for some of the old SSI games, not the former (see the link for a filtered listing of the catalogue).

CD Projekt is the parent company of both CD Projekt RED and GOG Ltd, if I've understood the hierarchy correctly, and the latter is - of course - the very same entity that runs this site.
Post edited November 26, 2015 by Maighstir
Posted November 26, 2015
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Kordanor: But my question is regarding old games which were aquired by CD Project, namely the SSI games.
They acquired the old SSI archived games?

Hmm i guess they did... :)
Posted November 26, 2015
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JudasIscariot: Have you tried asking this question on the CD Projekt RED forums? I would think that's your best bet and all :)
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Kordanor: Not yet. But aren't CD Project and CD Project RED 2 different legal instances?

I know that Streaming and monetizing for the Witcher Games are ok. But my question is regarding old games which were aquired by CD Project, namely the SSI games.
Ah sorry, I saw "CD Projekt" in the title and I missed the fact that The Witcher 3 was not mentioned at all :/ Reading comprehension: it helps!

Anyways, I am not sure myself on this issue but I'll ask :)
Posted November 26, 2015
Shouldn't this by default be covered by the "fair use" doctrine? It's basically art derived from a different artform. But then again i might be wrong.
Posted November 27, 2015
Nope, it's not. There are Developers/Publishers which explicitly prohibit using footage (not sure about the current situation but Nintento was a big pain at a time). Others disallow monetizing it (2K, Cliffhanger(Shadowrun), Harebrained Schemes(Shadowrun)) . Others have rules like no pure spoiler / cutscene videos (also 2K).
Again others, like Daedalic make you ask permission for every single game.

And in the end, it's their right to force youtube to take your footage down.
Post edited November 27, 2015 by Kordanor
Posted November 27, 2015
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Kordanor: Nope, it's not. There are Developers/Publishers which explicitly prohibit using footage (not sure about the current situation but Nintento was a big pain at a time). Others disallow monetizing it (2K) . Others have rules like no pure spoiler / cutscene videos (also 2K).
Again others, like Daedalic make you ask permission for every single game.

And in the end, it's their right to force youtube to take your footage down.
But is it really their right, or do they just get away with it because youtube cooperates to avoid dealing with it? Can they also have bad reviews taken down from anywhere on the web? Or just the screenshots maybe?
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