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With companies taking more drastic measures to take on pirates such as Denuvo etc. and the community adapting to this, with marketplace's such as GOG promoting DRM Free, how do people feel companies will react to the positive reaction shown toward DRM Free games? For example Shadow Warrior 2.
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_blueOne: how do people feel companies will react to the positive reaction shown toward DRM Free games?
For the AAA companies, they won't care and will continue to pump out DRM, since they've realized that most of the market barely knows or cares about DRM (as has been proven by the popularity of Steam). Plus, they're paranoid about pirating.
For the indie companies, they'll probably be more open to DRM-free since they like to expand their market any way they can, while the AAA companies already have a set reputation and know that there are people who'll buy their games no matter what.
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tinyE: Are you writing an article?
Nope, just have that style of writing (Web Dev is actual job). Bit of a loaded question, just wondering on how the current community is feeling the industry is moving.
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_blueOne: just wondering on how the current community is feeling the industry is moving.
Just as a warning (I can see from your registration that you're new around here, assuming you're not a sockpuppet account of some sort), you're asking a pretty biased community. I mean, you're on a website which pitches DRM-free, so of course everybody in here often has the attitude of "DRM-FREE OR BUST, BABY!" You're likely to hear a lot of overestimations both ways.
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zeogold: For the indie companies, they'll probably be more open to DRM-free since they like to expand their market any way they can, while the AAA companies already have a set reputation and know that there are people who'll buy their games no matter what.
Usually I would say that however certain indie dev's shy away from GoG as well which is a shame, however that may be down to preference more than fear of piracy I just wish more dev's would consider it. There needs to be more competition IMO to Valve, it would help raise the bar on customer service and quality of the platform.
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_blueOne: Usually I would say that however certain indie dev's shy away from GoG as well which is a shame, however that may be down to preference more than fear of piracy
There was a thread about that not too long ago. I think it had something to do with how easy it is to get on GOG vs. how easy it is to get on Steam. GOG has a curation policy, while Steam lets anything that gets "greenlighted" to get on.
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_blueOne: There needs to be more competition IMO to Valve, it would help raise the bar on customer service and quality of the platform.
Agreed. Steam is a pretty big gaming monopoly at the moment.
Post edited October 28, 2016 by zeogold
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zeogold: Just as a warning (I can see from your registration that you're new around here, assuming you're not a sockpuppet account of some sort), you're asking a pretty biased community. I mean, you're on a website which pitches DRM-free, so of course everybody in here often has the attitude of "DRM-FREE OR BUST, BABY!" You're likely to hear a lot of overestimations both ways.
I understood this, and I like to utilize both platforms, but for Indie games etc. I'm looking to buy over here from now on. I just enjoy the community involvement, it makes a nice change from the cancerous groups and r34 sketches on the steam community.
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zeogold: Agreed. Steam is a pretty big gaming monopoly at the moment.
Seeing Microsoft make waves with good 1st party titles is nice I LOVE GoW4 and the remastered edition's however they have nothing besides their 1st party stuff to compete, if they divided the store to focus on PC and ported mobile shit separately I think they could gain a foothold in the market.
Post edited October 28, 2016 by _blueOne
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_blueOne: companies will react to the positive reaction shown toward DRM Free games?
Same as they always do. Go with the version (DRM or DRM-Free) that makes financial sense. The more cynical companies may use DRM-Free as a buzzword to cut a bit on their advertising budget, but it will remain business as usual.
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JMich: Same as they always do. Go with the version (DRM or DRM-Free) that makes financial sense. The more cynical companies may use DRM-Free as a buzzword to cut a bit on their advertising budget, but it will remain business as usual.
I understand this sentiment, but within the past couple of years people have been calling companies out for their shit more and more due to the rise in PC gaming, so with more of a voice I can see more influence and potential change.
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_blueOne: I understand this sentiment, but within the past couple of years people have been calling companies out for their shit more and more due to the rise in PC gaming, so with more of a voice I can see more influence and potential change.
The sad part is that I can see the above quote being posted online at any point in the last 15 years, and still be true.
People are always calling out companies more and more, for whatever reason, but people also tend to forget and move on to the next thing. Despite one's sentiment about the usefulness of DRM-Free or not, it will remain a buzzword until someone can clearly define it (and by clearly I mean a definition that will hold in a court of law).

On the other hand, I can see a few good things coming from both "Online only" software and from Denuvo, so I am probably not in the norm for this forum.
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JMich: On the other hand, I can see a few good things coming from both "Online only" software and from Denuvo, so I am probably not in the norm for this forum.
As I've said earlier I'm not hardcore, I'd just like to break the current monopoly valve have and support companies with good morals.

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JMich: The sad part is that I can see the above quote being posted online at any point in the last 15 years, and still be true.
It's said I can say the same too. But trying to be more optimistic as of late, one can dream eh'?
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_blueOne: There needs to be more competition IMO to Valve, it would help raise the bar on customer service and quality of the platform.
It will be tough for GOG to directly compete with other shops if they allow their partners to undercut GOG's pricing on Steam, Origin etc. Because the majority of players, even those who would prefer DRM-free builds under equal conditions, will still compare prices before thinking about DRM.
Post edited October 28, 2016 by Leroux
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Leroux: It will be tough for GOG to directly compete with other shops if they allow their partners to undercut GOG's pricing on Steam, Origin etc. Because the majority of players, even those who would prefer DRM-free builds under equal conditions, will still compare prices before thinking about DRM.
Good shout, however is there a reason to this? As in do GoG take more of a cut than Steam? or is it simply bigger playerbase = cheaper prices from indie devs PoV?
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Leroux: It will be tough for GOG to directly compete with other shops if they allow their partners to undercut GOG's pricing on Steam, Origin etc. Because the majority of players, even those who would prefer DRM-free builds under equal conditions, will still compare prices before thinking about DRM.
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_blueOne: Good shout, however is there a reason to this? As in do GoG take more of a cut than Steam? or is it simply bigger playerbase = cheaper prices from indie devs PoV?
For example right now Costume Quest is on sale here and on steam. GOG- $2.49 while on steam- $.99.