The financial nobleness, blessed by the political clergy, will lead us into a brave new world my friend. Thank god all those unthankful filthy protesters will be identified by the NSA, branded as terrorists by our governments, and rounded up in places like Guantanamo Bay :D

Praise capitalism brother!

So the EU already watered down they health and safety standards, and we do not have TTIP signed yet..

Who cares about testicular cancer and male infertility... Safer pesticides would hurt business!!!

http://arstechnica.co.uk/tech-policy/2015/05/eu-dropped-plans-for-safer-pesticides-because-of-ttip-and-pressure-from-us/

And a U-Turn on the inclusion of the ISDS in the treaty.

http://arstechnica.co.uk/tech-policy/2015/05/dirty-last-minute-deal-sees-isds-accepted-by-key-european-parliament-committee/

O-O double facepalm. We`re so fucked. This trade agreements are basically corporate schariahs.

Newest reading about the trade agreement.

[url=]http://arstechnica.co.uk/tech-policy/2016/01/even-after-years-of-ttip-talks-new-study-still-unable-to-point-to-any-major-benefits/[/url]

TLDR: Still not benefits to the trade for EU

sorry for my very late response , just noticed this topic today.

i have read most of the shit (to call it shortly) about all the problems going on, regarding the EU machine.
Britain started his Brexit campaign, and already big leaders around the world are saying " ohh, Brexit will mean doom and more nonsense.

Back then we had EEC Since i been around now for 50 yearsand since my 12 i knew what was going on politically
thats will soon be 40 years of having to read all that shit they talked, and had to take all these dunb decisions for granted.

Imho shit hitted the fans bigtime in 2001, 2002 the introduction of the euro. Thats all.

If it is open to vote for or against TTIP by each and every civilian, then i don't worry. Even a brain-dead idiot wouldn't want it.

Unfortunately, that's not how a democracy work :P (well except maybe in Switzerland and Iceland :) )

Yeah, long ago Europe decided to form a committee to have an agreement of contracts and pricing in the steel industry, and 50 years later that same committee (the new and improved EU) is telling its member states that they have to ban smoking from their pubs. Anyone else have a problem in how they got some A to B?

This is what happens when bought out politicians take a knee and sign away legislative and executive authority (not to mention national sovereignty) to international bankers. This is not conspiracy theory. That's history, kids. Same happened here in the states during the creation of the income tax and the Federal Reserve. Long story. Lots of bribes. Some good books written on the subject. All by crack pots, of course. Never listen to those bastards. They're all scam artists and lunatics. Don't believe anything you see on the internet. It's all a poor imitation of reality.

The problem that the anti-TTIP campaign has is that, by wildly exaggerating the number of problems with the trade agreement with vague and unfounded extrapolations, they're devaluing the actual seriousness of the bigger, genuine problems, namely the issue of regulatory cooperation and Investor State Dispute Settlement, and the potential for these to be abused by dishonest corporations. These are the two things that need to go - thankfully ISDS is already off the table, but pressure needs to be put on to exclude lobbyists from regulatory processes, and I'm not really convinced about the Investment Court System.

Fun fact for the pro-Brexit/anti-ISDS folk out there by the way: both the Conservatives and UKIP are pro-ISDS, although UKIP has basically flip-flopped on this by expressing their support for unlimited free trade in its entirety - including ISDS - but then hypocritically attacking it for PR effect as soon as the European Commission comes into play. However, because the TTIP negotiations concern the European Single Market as a whole, Britain in the EU wouldn't be able to implement ISDS.

Ergo, if Britain should end up leaving the EU, it's still possible that ISDS may be implemented there. This is yet another a case of the Leave campaign very much wanting their cake and eating it.

More bad news might be coming, seems the current president of the US is very PRO for the TTIP....
hillary claims to be against ( might be to get some votes)

https://www.facebook.com/eci.ttip/posts/379677582234878

i googled and found this one:

http://www.dw.com/en/opinion-greenpeace-trump-and-ttip-go-hand-in-hand/a-19232717

all kind of claims are beiing made about who is 'bad' and has mixed intrests, apparently its hard to talk in plain english , case this way the common people might know what is happening, so thats why the complicated stories.


this is a nice one: I guess they man that the same shits will be pushed through, but they will chance some small things but basically psuh the same shits through, noone will know but the bad sideeffects will be the same.
Well thats what our MP's and politcians are for: enrich themselves and 'sacrifice' the people.