That's a different thing, it's like comparing eBay/Amazon Marketplace to independent stores. There can be bad sellers in either situation.

Origin :

https://www.origin.com/en-ie/store/deals/sale/spring-sale/basegame
https://www.origin.com/en-ie/store/deals/sale/spring-sale/bundles
https://www.origin.com/en-ie/store/deals/sale/spring-sale/dlc
https://www.origin.com/en-ie/store/deals/sale/spring-sale/expansion

Yup was on my wishlist, but now I got it free. Sweet!

Well, I wrote Obsidian support to answer this question, They surely know if they get money from that site or not.

PS: I am a kickstarter backer for Pillars, so I feel more attached to this one.

If they're doing something illegal I will replace the post with a warning not to use that seller, but Paradox are the publisher not Obsidian. They will have to trace the keys back to the wholesaler, but no matter what I expect Paradox will say "we only recommend buying from an 'authorised' retailer." I will be genuinely surprised if they say anything positive about it.

Remember that publishers don't like it if they can't completely control prices, but the EU commission is moving toward reasserting our rights as EU citizens to have free movement and price competition for digital goods, just as we have for physical goods.

You may also consider this: Greenman Gaming started out as 'unauthorised' but are now one of the go to places for 'authorised' sales. SimplyCDkeys are another that people accuse of being 'illegal' but it's merely a website by SimplyGames, who have been around for years selling consoles and physical copies.

I know there are real problems with stolen credit cards etc being used to acquire keys, I wouldn't pretend there aren't, but even stores like Amazon EU (fake AMD processors) and Newegg (dummy Intel processors) get caught out from time to time by criminal elements within suppliers, but that doesn't stop us using them.

I used to be very wary of these 3rd party sites and in the past would not have considered using any of them. However, a lot of the '3rd party' sites have now been going for years. I think ones like CJS would be taken down a long time ago under UK/EU law if they were selling illegal copies.

I feel we've reached a point where saying a blanket no to independent key sellers is akin to saying a blanket no to buying from a high street independent.

No love for the latest Indie Gala Friday Bundle?

All Steam

$1.00 for
- Bret Airborne
- Fall of the New Age - Premium Edition
- Guncraft

$2.99 for

- One Finger Death Punch
- ibb & obb
- Nihilumbra
- Rocketbirds: Hardboiled Chicken
- Bet On Soldier
- Potatoman: Seeks the Troof
- Ravaged Zombie Apocalypse
- Lilly Looking Through
- Namariel Legends: Iron Lord - Premium Edition

Damn. Twice the zombies, twice the Apocalypse. :)

Sorry. Not until happy hour. :-P
Fixed.

New Groupees up for Reserve :

https://groupees.com/adventurebeats


Adventure Beats Bundle

5 Games
2 Albums

Hmmm, maybe I'll try my luck and reserve this one! Seeing as I've missed out on the past few...

I have made good on a threat.

I looked at my groupees account and smiled at the gap from February 17 to March 23, when I caved and bought the pizza delivery inspired game.

Proof attached.

As the background picture on the website clearly shows, one of the games will be Red Johnson's Chronicles. It was bundled on Groupees before. According to Jonny Cappuccino on the chat, 2 of these games will be bundled for the first time, and there will be at least 6 games, 5 Steam.

Okay, so I have a couple different "Red Johnson" games in my Groupees Library . . .

So, 5 Steam meaning only 1 DRM Free, or some will have both?
This is why I quite doing the Reserve unless I know it's DRM Free (Greenlights).

If they are all steam only, I will be making another addition to my groupees swear jar.

I wonder if I could make a promise like budo, but save up for POE, $90 Stupid Buyer Edition... Wonder how long it would take?

It is as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced X(
Also, I hope you weren't commenting on the quality of Victoria earlier ;)