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Thanks. I will definitely start picking up more games from GamersGate. I am tired of having to deal with Steam's connection issues, and always getting jumpy at whether my account will get banned/hacked. That rant, of course, will be reserved for the "bashing to your hearts desire" thread.
It's a shame I have mistaken GamersGate for a mediocre digital distribution platform in the past. Now that that's all cleared up (and knowing that I can install my games offline WOOHOO!), I will buy their games more readily.
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Wolfox: Yes - when it finishes downloading, and it launches the installer, just copy the directory somewhere and you'll be able to install offline without the assistance of the Gamersgate downloader.
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mystral: I believe you can even avoid it by copying the temporary installation files to your HD.

A tip - you actually don't need to even copy the entire directory, at least not for any game I've downloaded. The key is launch.dat, which is decoded into setup.exe while the installer is running. Just copy and paste setup.exe, and you're in the clear - the GG downloader doesn't touch any other files.
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lowyhong: Thanks. I will definitely start picking up more games from GamersGate. I am tired of having to deal with Steam's connection issues, and always getting jumpy at whether my account will get banned/hacked. That rant, of course, will be reserved for the "bashing to your hearts desire" thread.
It's a shame I have mistaken GamersGate for a mediocre digital distribution platform in the past. Now that that's all cleared up (and knowing that I can install my games offline WOOHOO!), I will buy their games more readily.

Another recommendation for Gamersgate. They even offered me a refund on a DRM-free game purely on the basis of the fact that I could not make a workable backup (tip: backup the game while the setup.exe is running). A bit premature really as the parenthesis illustrate. So in some ways they're better than GOG really.
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Navagon: Another recommendation for Gamersgate. They even offered me a refund on a DRM-free game purely on the basis of the fact that I could not make a workable backup (tip: backup the game while the setup.exe is running). A bit premature really as the parenthesis illustrate. So in some ways they're better than GOG really.

Wow, I didn't know they would go as far as doing that. After all, the setup.exe obfuscation is part of their authentication method to make sure that only the real user is able to install the game (it's even in their FAQ). It would avoid them a lot of trouble to just offer the DRM free games really unprotected then.
I've never been unable to backup the setup.exe file, sometimes you just have to be very fast though. One time, I think it was with Deus Ex, I couldn't copy the file in time after several tries but renaming the launch.dat file to setup.exe worked. 99.99% of the times it doesn't work like that because it is supposed to be encrypted.
GG support and experience with them is flawless. For me they are an example for all other shops. (never had to use GOG so I can't compare in any way)
I had a game refunded because the game simply sucked ass and I told them exactly how I felt about it. Another time I got a refund for a X months old game because a patch was not released for the GG version of it because of the publisher being an ass about it, and they refunded me the game at the original price, not the reduced "current" price.
They are very reasonable and I have bought close to 100 games from them over the last 3 years. Basically ( don't count GOG since they are on another level) GG is always my first choice when buying a game unless they don't have it or (very rare) have it at a much higher price.
Oh and on one occasion there was a problem with a serial activation, they just gave me a new serial.
For me they are close being the best. If they manage to get faster patches (some times you need to let them know) and DLCs, they would be excellent.
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lackoo1111: Impulse deals = meh
GEOM $9.98
Alien Shooter $2.99
Real Warfare - 1242 $20.99
Grappling Hook $8.97 Territory: Worldwide (Excl. Eastern Europe / Russia)

Christ, that isn't a deals list, it's a waving flag of surrender.
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OmegaX: I've never been unable to backup the setup.exe file, sometimes you just have to be very fast though. One time, I think it was with Deus Ex, I couldn't copy the file in time after several tries but renaming the launch.dat file to setup.exe worked. 99.99% of the times it doesn't work like that because it is supposed to be encrypted.

I've never had a problem backing up immediately after the game has been downloaded (and the setup has just started). The problem was that I didn't know to do this the first time around. I wasn't angling for a refund from them. I just wanted to know if it was possible.
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lackoo1111: Impulse deals = meh
GEOM $9.98
Alien Shooter $2.99
Real Warfare - 1242 $20.99
Grappling Hook $8.97 Territory: Worldwide (Excl. Eastern Europe / Russia)
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Crassmaster: Christ, that isn't a deals list, it's a waving flag of surrender.

You can get Alien Shooter with Alien Shooter 2 and Zombie Shooter in the GG pack called Alien Shooter Gold Pack for less than Impulse's price of Alien Shooter.
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lowyhong: So for those of you who use GamersGate, how is it compared to GOG? Is it as hassle free? Is support good? Is the online activation DRM for installing games troublesome? Is there no other way to circumvent the need for an Internet connection when installing the game?

I hate to say it, but it some ways (especially support) GamersGate is better than GOG. Contact GG support during the week and you will see a response (an actual response*, not a cookie cutter response like Steam) within 24 to 48 hours.
Downloading games and installing them, is for the most part, dead easy. The GG downloader works nicely and can now be paused/stopped (and resumed at a later date). Once downloading is complete the setup file will launch immediately (but you'll be prompted to actually perform the install just as if you're installing from DVD). When the setup finishes you'll be prompted by the downloader as to what to do with the downloaded files -- delete, keep or run setup again. So backing up is dead easy too =)
There is simple activation on the GG downloader itself (which you'll only see if you run the downloader sometime after you downloaded it (it'll prompt for username/password) if you run it as soon as you download it, you'll not see that prompt. Each game has it's own downloader file.
Any game specific DRM/online activation will, naturally, depend on the game. But if you look in the temporary gamersgate folder once the setup screen is displayed, you'll be able to find the setup.exe file and copy it to another location. Do that, then copy it back once installation is complete and you'll remove the need to use the GG launcher for that game. You can then also delete the "launch" file (which is the setup.exe in its encrypted form). So if a game is DRM free, that's how remove the need to be connected to the net.
Note, that won't work for all games though and it'll be trial and error to see if it does work.
In the regards of activation limits, if you run out, don't ask the publisher for more. Ask GamersGate support and they'll sort you out -- probably faster than going to the publisher. GG believe that once you buy a game, it's yours for good. And when they get the chance to suggest a DRM method, they will now urge publishers to go DRM free.
Also, if you ever wind up with duplicate copies of games, you won't lose the duplicate (like Steam) it'll remain in your account and you can ask support to move it to someone else's account if you so wish.
* Not counting the initial automated response that tells you they got your email.
Oh, on the subject of refunds, I've never even tried asking GG for one, but on the few occasions where I've been really annoyed with problems due to their system (such as horribly slow download speeds -- now fixed since they expanded the regions that can use the US based servers), or inane regional restrictions they've offered me free games as a form of compensation.
They also tend to listen to customer suggestions. There are a few features on GG now as a result of feedback I've given them =)
Post edited July 08, 2010 by bansama
Wewt! You guys have now turned me into a cult fanatic of GG - and I only just started paying attention to them today!
I dropped them an email over at pr@gamersgate.com, asking them if they'll ever remove the installer DRM - you know, having one more person to join the anti-DRM fight never hurts. But I'm not sure if pr@gamersgate.com is the right place to send feedback. Where do you guys send it? I can't find any other address.
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lowyhong: Where do you guys send it? I can't find any other address.

support at gamersgate dot com (it's listed in the footer), alternatively, twitter.com/gamersgate
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bansama: support at gamersgate dot com (it's listed in the footer), alternatively, twitter.com/gamersgate

Shiet I must be blind lol thanks!
Gamersgate/Paradox rocks. I bought a few games over there already. Downloaded the game, the installer auto-ran, installed the game, play. Kept the installation files, renamed it to the game's name and you're free to copy those files for backup into a DVD or another harddisk etc.
Not to mention the collection of Blue Coins, which can be used to buy games or get a discount for games. If you write a review for a game which you have already owned, you get additional Blue Coins. Start collecting. :D
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Since we're talking about Gamersgate here, does their downloader exe support pausing/resuming?