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Posted January 27, 2015
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Ganni1987: You don't even need to install the OS to reproduce this issue, just by loading into the Mint live desktop and try to install libsdl2-2.0-0:i386 it will ask you to install additional wayland:i386 packages, which in turn if you do, it nukes the OS.

The problem stands here: The 64bit version of these packages already comes preinstalled with Mint 17.1 so when you install the i386 (32bit) version it removes the 64bit ones and thus breaking the distro.

TBH I'm not sure why the Mint team didn't make these installable side by side instead of overlapping.

If you really want/need them side by side you'll have to place the 32bit library manually, how to do it:

- Download the package manually by going to www.pkgs.org

- Type in the search box the name of the library, for example "libwayland-client"

- Since Mint is based on Ubuntu 14.04, expand that section and download: libwayland-client0_1.4.0-1ubuntu1_i386.deb

- Once download the deb package, open it with Archive Manager and go like this: usr > lib > i386-linux-gnu > and you'll see 2 files.

- As root, extract them manually in your "/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu" and change the files ownership to "root"

- You now have both 32bit and 64bit libraries of wayland without breaking the system.

I wouldn't suggest using this method for every library you install but in certain cases it's a good workaround. The mini patches I create are done in a similar fashion, but placed in the games folders instead.

Also, if you make use of this method I would strongly suggest to document which files you placed manually. :D

EDIT: Uploaded screenshot
Glad to have it confirmed by someone else, and I glad there is a workaround but it should not be needed since GOG officially supports Mint. GOG needs to solve this.

Thanks.

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Ganni1987: Judas can you please let your Linux packer to include the following files with the game (Warband)? Link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw5Xv02Yq2HrUmE5Ri1xcVI4WFE

By adding these libraries, the game runs straight out of the box without the need to install any packages (and possibly nuke the system.) I think it would really help less experienced users and saves a lot of time and problems. Since GOG is supporting Ubuntu and Mint mainly, this would be a good idea.

The only input the user has to do is to have the correct video card drivers installed, which I believe is something out of GOG's control.

Thanks :-)

No, the open source one.

I also ran the tests on Mint 17.1 MATE 64bit twice, one with the open source driver and one with the proprietary and only the proprietary one worked.

It's definitely not a Cinnamon/MATE/KDE issue.

Which version of fglrx are you using (amd drivers)?
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JudasIscariot: Please write a Support ticket about these kind of things so this all gets collected in one place, thanks! :)
Judas can you please talk to someone, support doesn't seem to be getting us anywhere and this is a significant issue. The support person I was emailed by was someone named Genoan. Thanks.

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Ganni1987: You don't even need to install the OS to reproduce this issue, just by loading into the Mint live desktop and try to install libsdl2-2.0-0:i386 it will ask you to install additional wayland:i386 packages, which in turn if you do, it nukes the OS.
I honestly don't understand how they can't reproduce this, unless there doing it on a 32bit version...
Post edited January 27, 2015 by user deleted
Posted January 27, 2015
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USERNAME:Ganni1987#Q&_^Q&Q#GROUP:4#Q&_^Q&Q#LINK:90#Q&_^Q&Q#You don't even need to install the OS to reproduce this issue, just by loading into the Mint live desktop and try to install libsdl2-2.0-0:i386 it will ask you to install additional wayland:i386 packages, which in turn if you do, it nukes the OS.

The problem stands here: The 64bit version of these packages already comes preinstalled with Mint 17.1 so when you install the i386 (32bit) version it removes the 64bit ones and thus breaking the distro.

TBH I'm not sure why the Mint team didn't make these installable side by side instead of overlapping.

If you really want/need them side by side you'll have to place the 32bit library manually, how to do it:

- Download the package manually by going to www.pkgs.org

- Type in the search box the name of the library, for example "libwayland-client"

- Since Mint is based on Ubuntu 14.04, expand that section and download: libwayland-client0_1.4.0-1ubuntu1_i386.deb

- Once download the deb package, open it with Archive Manager and go like this: usr > lib > i386-linux-gnu > and you'll see 2 files.

- As root, extract them manually in your "/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu" and change the files ownership to "root"

- You now have both 32bit and 64bit libraries of wayland without breaking the system.

I wouldn't suggest using this method for every library you install but in certain cases it's a good workaround. The mini patches I create are done in a similar fashion, but placed in the games folders instead.

Also, if you make use of this method I would strongly suggest to document which files you placed manually. :D

EDIT: Uploaded screenshot#Q&_^Q&Q#LINK:90#Q&_^Q&Q#
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USERNAME:JudasIscariot#Q&_^Q&Q#GROUP:1#Q&_^Q&Q#LINK:87#Q&_^Q&Q#Please write a Support ticket about these kind of things so this all gets collected in one place, thanks! :)#Q&_^Q&Q#LINK:87#Q&_^Q&Q#
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USERNAME:Ganni1987#Q&_^Q&Q#GROUP:4#Q&_^Q&Q#LINK:90#Q&_^Q&Q#You don't even need to install the OS to reproduce this issue, just by loading into the Mint live desktop and try to install libsdl2-2.0-0:i386 it will ask you to install additional wayland:i386 packages, which in turn if you do, it nukes the OS.#Q&_^Q&Q#LINK:90#Q&_^Q&Q#
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Please follow up on that Support ticket is the only thing I can recommend at this time.
Posted January 27, 2015
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JudasIscariot: Please follow up on that Support ticket is the only thing I can recommend at this time.
Well I sent them another one again explaining even further what the issue is, hopefully this time they will take notice. :/
Posted January 27, 2015
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Daliz: You can actually do that but it's not recommended because next time you get a kernel update, chances are the video driver will break and you have to install it again in command line mode. The package manager takes care of all that when you use the prepackaged version.

BTW please update this thread if you find out more about that libSDL2/wayland stuff, there have been a few threads about it. It is weird that there is such a dependency.
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Daliz:
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Ganni1987: You don't even need to install the OS to reproduce this issue, just by loading into the Mint live desktop and try to install libsdl2-2.0-0:i386 it will ask you to install additional wayland:i386 packages, which in turn if you do, it nukes the OS.

The problem stands here: The 64bit version of these packages already comes preinstalled with Mint 17.1 so when you install the i386 (32bit) version it removes the 64bit ones and thus breaking the distro.

TBH I'm not sure why the Mint team didn't make these installable side by side instead of overlapping.

If you really want/need them side by side you'll have to place the 32bit library manually, how to do it:

- Download the package manually by going to http://pkgs.org/

- Type in the search box the name of the library, for example "libwayland-client"

- Since Mint is based on Ubuntu 14.04, expand that section and download: libwayland-client0_1.4.0-1ubuntu1_i386.deb

- Once download the deb package, open it with Archive Manager and go like this: usr > lib > i386-linux-gnu > and you'll see 2 files.

- As root, extract them manually in your "/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu" and change the files ownership to "root"

- You now have both 32bit and 64bit libraries of wayland without breaking the system.

I wouldn't suggest using this method for every library you install but in certain cases it's a good workaround. The mini patches I create are done in a similar fashion, but placed in the games folders instead.

Also, if you make use of this method I would strongly suggest to document which files you placed manually. :D

EDIT: Uploaded screenshot
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Ganni1987:
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JudasIscariot: Please follow up on that Support ticket is the only thing I can recommend at this time.
Good news sudo apt-get update & sudo apt-get upgrade does seem to make a difference after all. I know Judas you suggested this earlier but I wasn't able to check this until my unlimited usage kicked in. But appears that libsdl2-2.0-0:i386 can now be installed, it still wants to install a butch of wayland packages but no warning is being thrown up about removed packages in software manager like Cinnamon. I'm a little hesitant, but will try this again now.

GOG should put that on the game card though or something, as it stands that package does not work on a fresh install of 64-bit Cinnamon and can easily break your system.

Thanks Judas, Ganni1987, and everyone else...

EDIT: So support basically ignored the libsdl2-2.0-0:i386 issue after I told them it was now working with the sudo commands above, and sent me what felt like a scripted response about M&B Warband. So this will probably continue to cause issues for people new to Linux or those on newer installs of 64bit Mint with Cinnamon that haven't run those commands before.

They did tell me though that the freezing issue with M&B Warband was a known thing and is temporary. If you leave it for a few min the game will eventually load, which it did. So at least things are working now.


EDIT2: Well M&B Warband works, but with many many graphical issues. :/
Post edited January 27, 2015 by user deleted
Posted January 29, 2015
So I just download FlatOut 2 and on both the official driver and open source driver, the game won't start. Simply goes black for a second and then pushes my resolution to the highest setting from it's current settings and nothing else happens.

Any ideas as to the cause or a fix?

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JudasIscariot: Please follow up on that Support ticket is the only thing I can recommend at this time.
EDIT: So reading through the Door Kickers Read Me... I saw something about game not starting and a package to get: libtxc-dxtn0:i386, this packaged fixed like all of my games including Door Kickers and to an extent Mount & Blade on the open source drivers (M& B still has some graphical issues like on official drivers but does work now). Only one still not working is FlatOut 2. This appears to be what hyperagathon was talking about on page 1 but I must have gotten the wrong thing the first time around.

If I may ask, why isn't GOG like recommending this package? I have had nothing but issues with a few Linux games from GOG before installing that (still do but it seems to have made a positive improvement).
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Posted January 29, 2015
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USERNAME:JudasIscariot#Q&_^Q&Q#GROUP:1#Q&_^Q&Q#LINK:92#Q&_^Q&Q#Please follow up on that Support ticket is the only thing I can recommend at this time.#Q&_^Q&Q#LINK:92#Q&_^Q&Q#
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libtxc-dxtn is the S3TC textures library, I think the reason GOG didn't mention this is because they come with video card drivers package or at least with the proprietary Nvidia ones for sure.

I'll try running Warband with the Nouveau driver + this library and report back with my findings.
Posted January 29, 2015
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Ganni1987: libtxc-dxtn is the S3TC textures library, I think the reason GOG didn't mention this is because they come with video card drivers package or at least with the proprietary Nvidia ones for sure.

I'll try running Warband with the Nouveau driver + this library and report back with my findings.
That would be great, let me know if there is any graphical issues assuming it runs fine. I haven't really tried native Warband yet, but VC is full of issues and horrible performance on AMD.


EDIT: So I tried Native myself, and it was a lot better actually than VC... it worked decent ( not as good as windows) but very playable. So maybe this is just a VC issue?

EDIT2: Flatout 2 wasn't working because I put it with my other games in opt/GOG Games which does not work when you launch it because it doesn't have root access I guess. The game plays great, but even though it works now when I exit the game the display resolution maxes out from my current resolution which is annoying.
Post edited January 30, 2015 by user deleted
Posted January 30, 2015
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May I ask where did you download the libtxc-dxtn0:i386 library from? In my package manager I could only find libtxc-dxtn-s2tc0.
Posted January 30, 2015
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Ganni1987: May I ask where did you download the libtxc-dxtn0:i386 library from? In my package manager I could only find libtxc-dxtn-s2tc0.
I think that is the same, just the 64bit one. I believe I installed via apt-get but it selected libtxc-dxtn-s2tc0:i386 so it should be the same thing. Software manager should have both the 64bit and 32bit package.
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Posted January 30, 2015
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USERNAME:Ganni1987#Q&_^Q&Q#GROUP:4#Q&_^Q&Q#LINK:98#Q&_^Q&Q#May I ask where did you download the libtxc-dxtn0:i386 library from? In my package manager I could only find libtxc-dxtn-s2tc0.#Q&_^Q&Q#LINK:98#Q&_^Q&Q#
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Thanks, I guess I was downloading the correct library without noticing then :-)

In any case I've been able to run the game with the open source nvidia drivers too. The proprietary one seems to have a built in version of this library and the game works normally even if I leave the library (from the repository) in the game folder, at this point I'm going to update my patch to include this library for a more out of the box experience for AMD/Nouveau driver users.

As for Viking Conquest I can't do any testing yet as I still have to buy the game, but I will once I get it.
Post edited January 30, 2015 by Ganni1987
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