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ChaunceyK: Just for shits & giggles (figure that one out, non-native American-English speakers), I decided to go buy a key from G2A for a game I've wanted from Steam right after seeing this thread last night. It was less than $2 (with G2A's small fee, no insurance) from a seller with several hundred sales and a 100% positive rating. It worked, I spent some time playing the game last night, and it's still in my library this morning.

But now a question. Will Steam revoke this game at some point if it turns out the key was somehow stolen? And how would they find out? And if it is revoked, can I still get my money back since I paid with PayPal?
The classic "formula" for laundering money is that you buy a product with your dirty money (be that a stolen credit card, drug money, or perhaps even money that's evading tax), then sell it for either cash, or in this case just electronic money that cannot easily be linked to the original purchase. The reason I mention this is to explain that there can be a time delay on this code being traced to some illegal cash depending on the money being laundered.

If the code is linked to illegal money, then the clawback process will start. For example in the case of a credit card, the card owner would see a transaction they didn't make and complain to the card company. The credit card company will refund the owner of the card, then go after steam to get the money back off them. When that happens you can be damn sure steam will send that downstream and claw the game back off you. This kind of answers your other question of how they would find out, it's because someone would take that money back off them.

So in all of this, given that the criminals have got their cash and run off, there's a long game to see who gets left holding the baby, and everyone is geared up to make sure it's you. G2A will certainly have covered themselves in the T&C to make sure it's not them (so no refund) otherwise they wouldn't still be running.

Having said all this, one easy way to be sure that a key definitely is dodgy, is to see if the game has ever been on sale for less than the price of the key. If it hasn't then, barring the odd freebie someone might get along with a new graphics card, there's no way that person could legitimately be making money from that trade, and if there are hundreds of purchases from them, they either buy a lot of graphics cards, or are dodgy as hell.
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phaolo: I still don't understand how did you come up with different meanings for "you're shit" and "you're the shit"..
Try looking up the definition of "egregious".
This is what happens when there's regional pricing of a digital content.
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rampancy: SNIO
So this suggests to me that you're saying that GOG has two branches -
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NO
What is the subject of this thread? What does it say in the title? What is the OP asking in the second question?

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rampancy: However, thanks to zeogold, I think that you meant to say something like, "But what I have heard, there's another community of GOG users that's a market place like thing were you buy keys from another person." Which by the way, I'd agree with.
No I meant what I said! And that was/is clearly. (see above and even TinyE did not derail this time ;) ) And even it was not quite clear for you from the beginning, I did refer to posts above, right? Did those say something about GOG? What did they speak about?

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rampancy: Why do you believe it to be true (if you do), and what basis do you have for that? I wasn't meaning disrespect with that; apologies to you, if you took it as offensive.
offensive, not really, apologies accepted and also my apologies for misunderstanding you (but, you could have worded it better from the beginning, or? ;) )

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rampancy: Fair enough; thanks for the clarification (and thanks for expressing it in a way that was mature and respectful). I've also heard people mentioning such things in the past (with NES & co., if memory serves), and judging from the way Steam keys are already traded and sold, it wouldn't surprise me if it's already a widespread practice with GOG keys.
tstststs, but before jumping to conclusions:
care to rephrase or ask in a more mature and respectful way myself instead of another person and creating hearsay? (which could put your post into a completely different perspective again, or?)
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Goodaltgamer: NO
What is the subject of this thread? What does it say in the title? What is the OP asking in the second question?
It was a misunderstanding, and he realizes it now.
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Goodaltgamer: No I meant what I said! And that was/is clearly. (see above and even TinyE did not derail this time ;) ) And even it was not quite clear for you from the beginning, I did refer to posts above, right? Did those say something about GOG? What did they speak about?
It was a misunderstanding, and he realizes it now.

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Goodaltgamer: (but, you could have worded it better from the beginning, or? ;)
Hm...how should I address this...
Oh, right:
It was a misunderstanding, and he realizes it now.
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Goodaltgamer: care to rephrase or ask in a more mature and respectful way myself instead of another person and creating hearsay? (which could put your post into a completely different perspective again, or?)
Is that really necessary to escalate this into more than it needs to be?
The question's been answered, the misunderstanding's been sorted out, and that's that.
Post edited October 23, 2016 by zeogold
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zeogold: snip
Escalating?

He asks me questions which I did answer right?
I did even suggest to him in a friendly way how he could have avoided it, right?
last point: Escalating? Are you NOW more reading into it as their is?

And your last sentence: If all misunderstandings were resolved he would have not asked questions, which I did address in a
mature and respectful way
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wpegg: Having said all this, one easy way to be sure that a key definitely is dodgy, is to see if the game has ever been on sale for less than the price of the key. If it hasn't then, barring the odd freebie someone might get along with a new graphics card, there's no way that person could legitimately be making money from that trade, and if there are hundreds of purchases from them, they either buy a lot of graphics cards, or are dodgy as hell.
The game was Warhammer Quest (not the Deluxe version). I'd only ever heard about it when I joined Steam around 3 weeks ago, so I have no idea what kind of sales it's been offered at. There were several keys available at G2A from sellers, all under $2 a piece and with a high number of sales & positive ratings. The game offers so many IAPs....well, I guess they're "microtransactions" since it's a PC port of a mobile game....that I could see it having been on a ridiculous sale at some point. Maybe.

Even if I end up getting the game pulled at some point, at least I'll know (a) don't buy anything more expensive than a buck or two at G2A, and (b) I'll have played the game enough for that $1.95 or so I paid to know if I like it enough to buy it from a more trusted site.
I don't think you should use them just to get a game cheaper, the risk of being scammed is too high.

It can be useful if a game is banned/on the index in your country though.
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ChaunceyK: The game was Warhammer Quest (not the Deluxe version). I'd only ever heard about it when I joined Steam around 3 weeks ago, so I have no idea what kind of sales it's been offered at. There were several keys available at G2A from sellers, all under $2 a piece and with a high number of sales & positive ratings. The game offers so many IAPs....well, I guess they're "microtransactions" since it's a PC port of a mobile game....that I could see it having been on a ridiculous sale at some point. Maybe.

Even if I end up getting the game pulled at some point, at least I'll know (a) don't buy anything more expensive than a buck or two at G2A, and (b) I'll have played the game enough for that $1.95 or so I paid to know if I like it enough to buy it from a more trusted site.
This case is likely one of the keys either being in a bundle that the seller got as an individual key and doesn't want, or a freebie they got and don't want. The sellers aren't really making any profit (or nothing of significance).

The issue arises with things like The Witcher 3 shortly after release, where the game keys were bought with stolen credit cards and sold for something like 50% off - a deal that wasn't showing up anywhere else. That's a significant profit for the seller.
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zeogold: Is that really necessary to escalate this into more than it needs to be?
The question's been answered, the misunderstanding's been sorted out, and that's that.
I'm reminded of Don Quixote for some reason...
Post edited October 23, 2016 by GR00T
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zeogold: snip
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Goodaltgamer: Escalating?

He asks me questions which I did answer right?
I did even suggest to him in a friendly way how he could have avoided it, right?
last point: Escalating? Are you NOW more reading into it as their is?

And your last sentence: If all misunderstandings were resolved he would have not asked questions, which I did address in a

mature and respectful way
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Goodaltgamer: .
....I'm just...gonna...stand on the side over here...
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GR00T: I'm reminded of Don Quixote for some reason...
Don Zeoxote de la Puzzle, Inc.?
Post edited October 23, 2016 by zeogold
G2A.com is not reliable source for buying steam or gog keys.

You are better off buying on gog and the games not available on gog should be bought on steam or humble bundle.
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zeogold: Try looking up the definition of "egregious".
In italian that means respectful O_o
Post edited October 23, 2016 by phaolo
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zeogold: Try looking up the definition of "egregious".
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phaolo: In italian that means respectful O_o
e·gre·gious
əˈɡrējəs/
adjective
1.
outstandingly bad; shocking.
2.
remarkably good.


"English doesn't borrow from other languages. It chases them down dark alleys, beats them up, and goes through their pockets for loose grammar." - Some guy
Shiiiiiiiiit.

We had a perfectly good thread going and then a fucking game of Scrabble broke out! ;P
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tinyE: Shiiiiiiiiit.

We had a perfectly good thread going and then a fucking game of Scrabble broke out! ;P
Well, what did you expect?
We have to find SOMEplace to put these 2 Gs and single A. I suspect we could make "grace" out of that pre-existing "race", but that really only makes use of one of the Gs...