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Posted July 31, 2015
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ne_zavarj: Some generous forum members can afford to buy multiply copies from the newly released games .
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soxixixi: not a chance i believe this story
Why not? I've given away a few titles randomly on release day in cases where someone shows high enthusiasm for that game but didn't have the means to buy it, even at the reduced release-day price. I don't understand why this is so difficult to believe.

Shoulda been here a couple years ago, when a good 15-20% of the threads were giveaways. Did they do it for the silly little number that means not-a-whole-lot? Seriously, why trade $9.99 in real cash for a bump of a few points on a virtual number at a game site forum?
Posted July 31, 2015
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cogadh: Frankly, they should just get rid of the rep system. Leave a system for downvoting/upvoting individual posts, but don't tie it to a reputation system at all.
I said it before- the rep system is easily abused, introduces counter-productive "score" element to participating in the community, and it is increasingly useless for... well, anything. I'm sure we've all seen nice, polite people with rep below 10 (or even negative!) and insult-slinging, terrible people with crazy high rep.
Posted July 31, 2015
The community management has been a bad joke for quite some time now. Ciris' posts show how obviously detached the GOG staff is these days. I will not ask for general moderation but I will ask for basic forum and message functions (call them ignore/block/whatever tickles your fancy) and getting rid of the reputation system among other things.
This could all be solved by getting a regular forum software like vBulletin of course but who wants to spend money anyway? After all you haven't even finished the website or the account system and show no interest in fixing any of the known issues.
Speaking as a former forum administrator: You have failed on all levels. Badly.
Posted July 31, 2015
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Ciris: action.
Great. We'd like to see some.

1. Get rid of the rep system.
2. Allow us to block users from chatting us.
3. Allow us to delete chats.

Thanks,
Posted July 31, 2015
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As far as I'm concerned, Rep is a fine system. And I'll be honest one of the reasons I finally joined here were the low barriers to entry for account creation. I remember I went to make a Gmail account a few years ago and it wanted my phone number - are you f$#&ing kidding me?

You want a really simple, easy solution. Paygate the general forum. No posting / participating in General Discussion until you've purchased (not redeemed a gift code) a game. Make it $5.99 for the "basic" priced games, hell make it just any purchase - I'm not wedded to either.

For Support purposes, allow accounts to post in game specific subforums for any game in their account (even if it's a free game or a game they redeemed via code) but do not allow accounts that haven't paid for a game to participate in the main General Discussion Forums.
Posted August 01, 2015
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Ixamyakxim: As far as I'm concerned, Rep is a fine system. And I'll be honest one of the reasons I finally joined here were the low barriers to entry for account creation. I remember I went to make a Gmail account a few years ago and it wanted my phone number - are you f$#&ing kidding me?

You want a really simple, easy solution. Paygate the general forum. No posting / participating in General Discussion until you've purchased (not redeemed a gift code) a game. Make it $5.99 for the "basic" priced games, hell make it just any purchase - I'm not wedded to either.

For Support purposes, allow accounts to post in game specific subforums for any game in their account (even if it's a free game or a game they redeemed via code) but do not allow accounts that haven't paid for a game to participate in the main General Discussion Forums.
Might be a bad idea, some problems are not only game-specific, hence a useful user (yes they still exist, they are not Yetis or Reinhold Messner's ;) ) could not post in a subforum too which he does not own the game. Best example might be Linux/Mac OS problems ;)

Game purchase, why not, I COULD live with it for sure. If those spammers would have to pay at least like 1 buck to post, this would help us as well, imagine all this extra income *evilgrin*
Posted August 01, 2015
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Ixamyakxim: As far as I'm concerned, Rep is a fine system. And I'll be honest one of the reasons I finally joined here were the low barriers to entry for account creation. I remember I went to make a Gmail account a few years ago and it wanted my phone number - are you f$#&ing kidding me?

You want a really simple, easy solution. Paygate the general forum. No posting / participating in General Discussion until you've purchased (not redeemed a gift code) a game. Make it $5.99 for the "basic" priced games, hell make it just any purchase - I'm not wedded to either.

For Support purposes, allow accounts to post in game specific subforums for any game in their account (even if it's a free game or a game they redeemed via code) but do not allow accounts that haven't paid for a game to participate in the main General Discussion Forums.
That is a genius idea. That would definitely prevent a handful of people from creating 100 alternate accounts and downreping people.
Posted August 01, 2015
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Ixamyakxim: You want a really simple, easy solution. Paygate the general forum. No posting / participating in General Discussion until you've purchased (not redeemed a gift code) a game. Make it $5.99 for the "basic" priced games, hell make it just any purchase - I'm not wedded to either.
I hate to agree with monkey on anything, but that is probably a good way to deal with a big chunk of the problem.

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misteryo: 1. Get rid of the rep system.
2. Allow us to block users from chatting us.
3. Allow us to delete chats.
The first one would be good, the other two are absolute must.
Post edited August 01, 2015 by Breja
Posted August 01, 2015
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Ixamyakxim: As far as I'm concerned, Rep is a fine system. And I'll be honest one of the reasons I finally joined here were the low barriers to entry for account creation. I remember I went to make a Gmail account a few years ago and it wanted my phone number - are you f$#&ing kidding me?

You want a really simple, easy solution. Paygate the general forum. No posting / participating in General Discussion until you've purchased (not redeemed a gift code) a game. Make it $5.99 for the "basic" priced games, hell make it just any purchase - I'm not wedded to either.

For Support purposes, allow accounts to post in game specific subforums for any game in their account (even if it's a free game or a game they redeemed via code) but do not allow accounts that haven't paid for a game to participate in the main General Discussion Forums.
Another +1 to your suggestions. Sounds like this would help with various current problems.

It's also a Win/Win type deal, because if people want to create spam or troll accounts, at least they'd be forced to support GOG with their initial payment. :P
Post edited August 01, 2015 by CharlesGrey
Posted August 01, 2015
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monkeydelarge: A lot of people here, deserve a high rep so that wouldn't be fair to them.
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cogadh: And those people don't care about having the biggest e-peen on GOG's forums. Rep serves no purpose for those who already participate constructively on the forums.
That's exactly what our weird friend with his few dozen alt-accounts doesn't get. He seems to think that rep is something important that has an influence on your account. He's completely fixated on rep. Just look at what he wrote apehater (you can find it in the known scammers thread):
looks like someone is pissed for their own rep
see pimp case
from 209 to -2
this account you use is no problemo at all - its a total bust
pimpmonkey and apehater do have their "reputation" (good or bad - doesn't matter, but most regulars know them), no matter what the number next to their rep is. You can change the rep number, but you can't change their reputation, no matter how many accounts you use to downvote them. The number is meaningless and has no influence at all.
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HereForTheBeer: Seriously, why trade $9.99 in real cash for a bump of a few points on a virtual number at a game site forum?
I remember a time where "Do some giveaways" was a pretty common answer to the "How do I get rep?" question. So... Yeah, some people seem(ed) to think that rep is worth "buying" it oO
Post edited August 01, 2015 by real.geizterfahr
Posted August 01, 2015
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real.geizterfahr: I remember a time where "Do some giveaways" was a pretty common answer to the "How do I get rep?" question. So... Yeah, some people seem(ed) to think that rep is worth "buying" it oO
Well, if people are willing to spend money on new skins and silly hats for theircharacters in some games, why not rep on forum? At least buying rep like that also involves making someone happy with a gift, so it's already a better deal than a new color for a hero's shirt in some MOBA.
Posted August 01, 2015
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1. Get rid of the rep system.
2. Allow us to block users from chatting us.
3. Allow us to delete chats.

That's it,in a nutshell.Gog wake up and do it.
Posted August 01, 2015
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Gunsynd you're a genius!

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snowkatt: and gog couldn't have taken a few minutes to actually TELL us that ?
instead fo stone walling us as usual

it took 3 days and two threads like this to even get your attention and all we get at first is a prewritten reply
that seems to assume we are all a bunch of toddlers in need of a scolding
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Ciris: Okay, first off, the problem was noted as soon as I got the message mentioned above, and that's when we started dealing with it. However, as we weren't sure by when we'd be able to produce a successful, tested, and working method of dealing with at least part of the problem, I didn't want to promise delivering a solution soon that would take a while longer to create.

Secondly, the reply was not pre-written - I wrote it in reply to the two threads and simply reposted them in both. It's not a message template or something like that, it's a reply I worked out with my coworkers to the issue, after gathering information from them on what solutions we might have now/soonish, and what we plan on doing if threads appear in the future in which swearing would be used for the sole sake of swearing.

I'm not assuming anyone's not mature enough to understand the issue (chat/forum harrassment), and I'm not saying we don't care about it, and I'm not saying that everyone here did something wrong for participating in the thread - I just want to put it out there that, until we create and implement moderation tools that would allow us to easier control threads where being offensive is used just for the sake of being offensive in a way that may target or hurt others, we'll take action.
Good! because this threads original title Made me quite Angry and with my PTSD and TBI (Truamatic Brain Injury) I started up a rant! I hate feeling that way!
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Ciris: TL;DR -- We're working on a solution to the harrassment issue. More news next week.
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ne_zavarj: Khmm . Only a small suggestion while you are working on the solution : Please also get rid of the rep system and replace it with a better one . ( like a voting system that shows who liked or didn't like the post )
Exactly So we can see who downrepped us! that would stop a shitload of mysterious downrepping!
Post edited August 01, 2015 by fr33kSh0w2012
Posted August 01, 2015
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fr33kSh0w2012: Gunsynd you're a genius!

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Ciris: Okay, first off, the problem was noted as soon as I got the message mentioned above, and that's when we started dealing with it. However, as we weren't sure by when we'd be able to produce a successful, tested, and working method of dealing with at least part of the problem, I didn't want to promise delivering a solution soon that would take a while longer to create.

Secondly, the reply was not pre-written - I wrote it in reply to the two threads and simply reposted them in both. It's not a message template or something like that, it's a reply I worked out with my coworkers to the issue, after gathering information from them on what solutions we might have now/soonish, and what we plan on doing if threads appear in the future in which swearing would be used for the sole sake of swearing.

I'm not assuming anyone's not mature enough to understand the issue (chat/forum harrassment), and I'm not saying we don't care about it, and I'm not saying that everyone here did something wrong for participating in the thread - I just want to put it out there that, until we create and implement moderation tools that would allow us to easier control threads where being offensive is used just for the sake of being offensive in a way that may target or hurt others, we'll take action.
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fr33kSh0w2012: Good! because this threads original title Made me quite Angry and with my PTSD and TBI (Truamatic Brain Injury) I started up a rant! I hate feeling that way!
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ne_zavarj: Khmm . Only a small suggestion while you are working on the solution : Please also get rid of the rep system and replace it with a better one . ( like a voting system that shows who liked or didn't like the post )
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fr33kSh0w2012: Exactly So we can see who downrepped us! that would stop a shitload of mysterious downrepping!
sure....
Posted August 01, 2015
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Or you could make it that we can hide posts without Downrepping people!

Just get rid of the Rep system

People that have high rep have high rep because they do giveaways it's their way of "Buying" High rep!
Post edited August 01, 2015 by fr33kSh0w2012
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