mchack: [...] But what do I know, that's how I'd do it but maybe CL is smart (unlike me) [...]
(I should really stop talking out of my ass, [...]
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And for the record, I didn't start, and don't keep, doing what I'm doing because you FoS'd me. Not sure you actually believe that yourself.
mchack: [...] So whatever you think about his play I think we can definitly agree that he's engaged and is calling people out and making enemies. There's 6 people out of 7 he has confronted about something or other, so it's definitly not some lay low, under radar kind of play. [...]
What about it being the play of the person that made all the WIFOM 'he wouldn't do this if he was CL' argument regarding the play of a couple of others?
trentonlf: My thoughts on the votes:
1. The votes on Hunter,
I think they are bad votes because he’s probably town 2. The votes on you,
I think they are bad votes because you’re probably town [...]
What am I doing about the apathy besides sighing? The same think I always do, try to encourage people to come to a consensus after about three days and then nothing else. So I guess I’m doing nothing about it, it’s what I’m good at.
Perhaps it's just me, but how is staying out of the discussions, unless something really jumps out at you, trying to encourage people to come to a consensus? You asked Bookwyrm627 for his input on the votes and the reasoning behind them, yet you too had to be asked to provide yours. And even now, only in broad strokes - why do you think Hunter65536 and I are both probably town?
Bookwyrm627: [...] Example:
HypersomniacLive: His later reads are very, very neutral, at best;
Bookwyrm627: Quite the déjà vu moment. There have been a couple of other times that I could dig for, but that's the one that really jumped out at me and prompted the comment. [...]
That was deliberate; there was a reason I asked you about his posts and reads, and you said exactly what I was thinking.
The point of my request to elaborate was to see if you read more into it.
Bookwyrm627: [...] I've spent the past ~2 hours rereading Dedo. I'm satisfied that he is town (for now).[...]
Elaborate, what about him made you reconsider?
Bookwyrm627: Mary, Mary, quite contrary
How does your garden grow?
Vote Hunter.
With blood and tears and no more years
of Village Awards to show.
Again, elaborate.
dedoporno: OK, I'm starting to agree with Trent that apathy is taking over.
@HSL, we are nearing the deadline mark and you're yet to make up your mind. I know you have RL issues to deal with but since you shared that you made a few appearances and are still to cast whatever vote. I don't think that's helping anyone despite the conversations that are going on.
I haven't made up my mind yet, and would like a reply from Bookwyrm627 regarding you. But I don't like Hunter65536's reaction in post #315. Starting the winking and nudging as soon as he got his second vote was premature, imo, and comes across to me as fearmongering more than anything else. So, that's another strike against him, so leaning more towards him right now.
And since flubbucket has been mentioned/discussed, again - I was reading his posts mostly as baiting people, and trying to provoke a reaction from me. But I've started to wonder - for all his accusation of me in his post #232, he avoids taking a stance on anyone, including myself who supposedly is his preferred lynch as CL (though his post #333 makes it sound like his vote is based on who among the players he thinks would be (the most?) dangerous as CL; doesn't necessarily mean he's sincere here, of course). And it's started to look and feel like a meticulous effort; Is it enough to go there Today? I guess not, but I've made a note of it.
dedoporno: [...] That's not necessarily true.
If we do have a second day someone might have to change their standing by necessity. The stronger their stance was the more noticeable the change will be. In addition to that we should have more context to work with - the lynch, Wyrm's setup and whatever it brings, maybe other things as well. But in general, yes, if you reached a point where you decided to trust someone Today, Tomorrow you should no longer count on that.
[emphasis added]
Under which circumstances in the current (Cult C9 semi-open) setup would we not have a second day?
Regarding the "someone might have to change their standing by necessity. The stronger their stance was the more noticeable the change will be" - more than a few people seem to be playing for the case of a possible recruitment Tonight as to not have to make a (noticeable) change.
