Well, I was disappointed you didn't answer the question about the proper orientation of toilet paper.

Regarding game play your answer was pretty much what I expected.

But I think you're misrepresenting me a bit here. I wasn't saying here that your answer was unsatisfactory. I was responding to Hijack's statement that I'm being inflexible with an example of a specific case where I put out a scenario where I would vote Trent today but reiterating that I think the correct play is Ix today, Trent tomorrow.

I'm not sure how both you and Hijack are spinning that as me being teamed with Trent. But I can't disprove it, and we all get to have our own opinions/guesses, so I'm not going to sweat it. If Hijack is an investigator as he says, he's presumably looking at me tonight.

I'll just say I can live with that.

And why is that? What if I am correct and trent messes with the flip today as well and we get more inconclusive information? No. I am going to be blunt as hell here and say you're outright wrong in this case. This play is not more right, it has higher potential of leading us to less info.

Presumably. Depends on who's the lynch.

I think trentonlf changed adaliabooks flip. I have no idea of adaliabooks actual alignment, but I need to clear this.

Vote: trentonlf

I'm not quiet ready to weigh in on today's happenings so far. A couple of things are bothering me that I need to check when not on mobile.

But I do have a question about the vote count. Lift has mentioned the four options we were to sort out at the end off each day. I think this was establish earlier, @Lift - can you confirm that drealmer is not currently voting? I'm thinking of post 1376.

That's right. He's voting #3. cristigale wearing the smarty pants.

Yes, I can confirm that drealmer didn't use his lynch vote. He just voted on the political decision you'll have to take eventually.

So, updated vote count:
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trentonlf 4: Ixamyakxim, krypsyn, HijacK, flubbucket
Ixamyakxim 2: bler, trentonlf

not voting: drealmer, cristi, dedo, Bookwyrm.
With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch and trentonlf is at L-2
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Political decisions:
Option 3 (call in the national guard): 1 vote by drealmer.

Hey, I'm back. Catching up. brb

I did not change anyone's flip, I'm not even sure how that is possible.

It seems I'm the pick of the day by scum. I guess if a townie is going to die today I'm probably the best choice. I am Bartholomew Sanders and I am a Vanilla Townie. Whatever is going on here with flips I am clueless. As I said all I've been trying to do is find scum and that's what I'll continue to do. For whatever reason people seem to be still listening to whatever yogs was saying and so I get to be the next target.

@Hijack if you do have an investigative role why have we not heard of any investigation by you? I know you said you were jailed on night one, but what about night two?

As for my vote it's staying on Ix, I still find him the scummiest player right now and unless someone else makes a slip not much will change it. If I am lynched today I just ask that he be heavily scrutinized because I'm pretty sure he is scum spouting yog's rhetoric from whatever scum chat they have.

I was not jailed. Thank you for asking. Here, I'll even tell everybody what I did on night 2 if we achieve a favorable lynch in my books. Until then I have to keep my aces in the pocket.
The results, however are not related, to your wagon. And the range of investigative roles is broad. You speak of mine as if you knew what I was and am supposed to have the holy grail of answers.

Yog was NK'd last night. Why do you use present for something that the only possibility of existence is in the past? Yog doesn't have anything now. Not an accusation, don't get me wrong. Just curious about it.

I have no idea what your role is, but any investigative role if used could possibly have results so I was simply asking if you had any results on night 2 that would help.

I mention yogs because whatever nonsense Ix is spouting sounds like something yogs would come up with, so I figure yogs gave Ix the idea of what to say if he was actually the night kill. So to me it seems since yogs said on Day 2 I was his next target I've come under suspicion. I still say Ix slipped and confirmed two scum teams, and if there's not two teams then something is going on that I have no clue about because I can't see a scenario where there are two jailers on one scum team.

You weren't jailed?

Also, is anyone else having sudden flashbacks to a scum that made a similar play? You planning to dump your ideas between lynch and night fall too?

Sorry for the late check in, I expected it will take longer because Lift said so about the holiday. Then work and family matters emerged... Anyway, let's move on.



First things first. Nice try Town Jailer-Detective Yogs. @bler, would you still like that toaster I got you guys?



Doesn't really say that much since we already saw that scum or no scum, everyone who got a bit of heat was fair game for Yog.

On the other hand some of what he claimed is most likely true to some extent. There is no way he came up with all that out of nowhere and I see how it would have been solid facade if he managed to get on a bunch of "good" wagons and with some people seeing his point because they may have parts of the puzzle.



What sucked? Did you lose your buddy? Kidding. But honestly, did you?



For the record I would have also been on all 3 if I didn't make a mistake and neglect unvoting before voting for adalia. I would have fixed it in the morning but the deed was already done.



Did you skip me on purpose (I was scum for you some time ago after all) or by mistake?



How about protection roles not actually protecting them?



Really? You are breaking my heart.



It depends on whether or not useful information has been acquired or not. If not, coming out would be a mistake, but if they can prove/disprove something or shed a lot more light on whatever is going on, yes, they may consider if the exposure is worth it or not.



So, clean kills and tampered night flips as well? Where does it all end?! We must be so powerful to counter that, it's not even funny.

I know you said you can't take credit for nailing scum Yog, but if you did nail him anyway - good job!



Don't get too excited, son. I'm here. And not prodded ;)



Was that really necessary?



He didn't self change. It's quite funny, too, since it's obvious on second examination :) Go back and check both his claim and his flip. Do you seem something weird there? I mean, something other than the role?



Some thoughts and comments:

1. Still no second NK.
2. No more jailings (I believe I was the last one to check in, no one said anything yet and I wasn't jailed). Where did Yog's jail went to and why is no one claiming it? Did he jail his buddy to protect them? If yes, could he do both the NK and jailing or is there a 3rd buddy?
3. Things are starting to look like 2 teams more and more regardless of the single NKs. I think someone noted this already but NKs may be limited to 1 per night to balance the larger amount of mafiosos. The "more killable" part may have something to do with it.
4. People against who Yog lead a campaign are interesting. They were either rival scum (if 2 teams), inconvenient town or potentially buddies to get distanced from.
5. Adalia's wagon became more interesting.

drealmer, yogsloth, cristigale, Krypsyn, flubb, Ixamyakxim, HSL, trentonlf (and I would have been there as well if I didn't screw the vote up).

If I have to guess I'd say some of these tampered with the flip. And that someone was Yog's buddy (for all we know Jailer does other things, yet Yog knew). So it wasn't Yogs, HSL got NKed and cleaned, so I doubt it was him (so far we had 2 clean NKs and the only one flipped was scum).

On this wagon we had apparent antagonisms like yog <-> trent, flub -> yog, yog -> me and some allied ones like krypsyn <-> yog, Ix -> yog.

I find both being on the wagon and hammering it similarly plausible as requirements for making changing the outcome.

Now we have - Ix <-> Trent.

It was said the Ix feels off somehow, I'm share the feeling, but I'm not particularly impressed by Trent's play throughout the game, either.
One of these may be the flip scrambler but that doesn't automatically mean the other one is cleared. I actually think both of them may be good choices.

I'm not a fan 48 hour lynches unless a cop says he got scum, so let's talk some more before getting it done.

I got an idea on what HijacK's stance about this is but I would like to hear more from flub because #1401 needs a bit more texture.

You know for all the reasons people have brought up for suspecting me, not a one used this until trenton, barely a few posts back:

As far as I remember, this was the FIRST time anyone brought this up - despite the fact that if someone were town, it should have been the first reason to vote for me (and / or a few others), not this other nonsense. I actually found that suspicious.

But no, I honestly didn't lose my buddy. What sucked was that I was totally on board with yog's scumhunting and thought he was doing a fantastic job of it. Unfortunately, after those lynches I never thought he was scum too LOL. What was fantastic was:

1) one scum down due to a night kill - didn't even need to waste a lynch and

2) it put what happened the day before into perfect perspective and gave us a small pool of yog's rival scum (it looked like the rival scum team turned to actively attempting to lynch yog as soon as it was obvious yog had a critical mass of town and his own team ready to gut the hell out of them). I wouldn't mind finishing that work.

So basically if someone is prodded and protected, that protection won't count? I hadn't considered that honestly. I had images in my head of Lifthy rolling a D6 at his desk every night.

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Agreed. Little in the voting patterns makes sense to me if there is only one scum-team.

I recommend Potassium Chloride or Calcium Chloride.

Is that a serious argument? Like, I can't tell if that's for realz or not.

List was based on the wagon analysis. Based on that you were not included... I think. I don't think I skipped you. Did I? Need to check. I don't have an interest in you anyway. I'm confident in my analysis.

Probably not. I blame it on the heat of the moment.

I don't follow. Can you explain that?