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HDDs are vulnerable to damage from bumps and other movement, but mostly when they are in operation.

2.5" HDDs are designed for laptops so they are designed to withstand bumps better. Laptops are also the reason these drives run at lower temperatures (heat can also damage the drive).

If you really that worried about bumps get an 2.5" external HDD that has anti-shock protection.

The more an HDD is in operation, the higher the chance of failure. External HDDs meant for backup should not be plugged in all the time. They should be only plugged in when transferring files (sorry, maybe this is obvious).

Always "safely remove hardware" before unplgging to prevent corruption of data (I learned this the hard way a few weeks ago, but luckily Windows error checking fixed the problems). Disable sending deleted files to the Recycle Bin for external drives.

Regular CDs and DVDs and Blurays are reliable, but recordable CDs and DVDs and Blurays are not, especially if burned at faster speeds.

For very important files, reduncancy is key. Don't store them on one HDD only.
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rtcvb32: I've had drive heads go ca-click before. You can send the drive to get fixed (maybe) and data recovered (maybe) but it's very expensive. But maintenance goes more towards the drive's board.
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jamotide: What do you mean? What maintenance am I supposed to do on the board? The plastic circuit board??
If the board goes bad, there's the replacement of it... And yes you can take the board off without opening the drive up. Unfortunately you need an exact replacement, so if you happen to have 2 of the exact same hard drive then you could swap boards to make one work again when it stops. Just hope they don't both stop working at once.

Oh yes, and of course having to run the occasional scandisk/chkdsk/utilities on it. Etc. (Especially when the power goes out an caching or something goes wrong)/

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jamotide: Why would a backup drive be fragmented? It is not used enough for that.
Not every drive starts as a backup drive. Besides with file updates you sometimes add files and delete older ones. Files do eventually get fragmented, but maybe not nearly as much as we'd see in the old days where you ran defrag every month or so.
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jamotide: It is reckless because HDs are sensitive to bumps.
While burned discs aren't...

Honestly if you're making regular say weekly backups, you should probably be burning no more than 1-2 DVD's per week, which you could even mail to a friend's place rather than drive there.

Might be better off using a tape instead if you had a HUGE amount of data to backup at a time, or maybe use tapes for the base and then use discs for the incremental backups. After 3 months start over again...

Oh and don't reuse the same disk (floppy or rewritable) for all the disks...

Since we're on the topic...
Post edited January 03, 2016 by rtcvb32
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mrkgnao: And how am I supposed to do my regular weekly backups if it's at someone else's house? And how is it reckless? I've been doing it for years without any problems.
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jamotide: It is reckless because HDs are sensitive to bumps. And you are supposed to do your weekly backups with the backup at home, obviously not with the ones you keep outside of your home to safeguard against fire and break in.
As I've said, I've been doing this for years and have never had a problem. That's why I thought they were called "portable". I have a portable eGO HD that's been thrown about in my backpack for at least five years and it's working just fine.

And if I'm not backing up on the one in someone else' s house, then that one is not up to date and useless for me.

But obviously we see things differently.
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mrkgnao: As I've said, I've been doing this for years and have never had a problem. That's why I thought they were called "portable". I have a portable eGO HD that's been thrown about in my backpack for at least five years and it's working just fine.
I'm reminded of a laptop i had years and years ago with a 300Mb drive, it had utilities that told the hard drive to park the head right before you turned off the computer so you could move the computer...I haven't seen any utilities like that since.

I can only think that in modern hard drives when it realizes it has very little power left that it tells the head to lock somewhere safely until power is restored, since the head would be the easiest thing to damage the plates and your data.
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mrkgnao: As I've said, I've been doing this for years and have never had a problem. That's why I thought they were called "portable". I have a portable eGO HD that's been thrown about in my backpack for at least five years and it's working just fine.
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rtcvb32: I'm reminded of a laptop i had years and years ago with a 300Mb drive, it had utilities that told the hard drive to park the head right before you turned off the computer so you could move the computer...I haven't seen any utilities like that since.

I can only think that in modern hard drives when it realizes it has very little power left that it tells the head to lock somewhere safely until power is restored, since the head would be the easiest thing to damage the plates and your data.
Windows has a "Safely Remove Hardware and Eject Media" resident utility, which one is supposed to use before disconnecting an external HD, USB flash drive, etc.. This gives the external accessory a "power-off notification" to allow it to prepare for the upcoming loss of power.
Thanks for the useful tips, info and details. They're really helpful. +1 for all replies. Cheers! :)
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mrkgnao: Windows has a "Safely Remove Hardware and Eject Media" resident utility, which one is supposed to use before disconnecting an external HD, USB flash drive, etc.. This gives the external accessory a "power-off notification" to allow it to prepare for the upcoming loss of power.
I think that's more so it makes sure to flush the cache; Although windows recently has defaulted that usb drives are automatically set up not to cache results in memory too much since so many people can't seem to know how to properly eject their devices...
Post edited January 03, 2016 by rtcvb32
I've tried Seagate, WD, GoFlex and HGST.

WD I find is the most reliable right now, with my Goflex being my other goto drives. No Seagates for me. Ever. And no Touros, ever again. Both the Seagate and Touros died very quickly after first purchase, and not because of abuse. Tried to repair them.. nope, non-standard parts as well. Yay.

But yes, don't touch the drive when it is on, even if it says "portable". They're not. They like to say they are, but push come to shove, they really, really aren't. They're "portable" in the sense that they are small, not "portable" in the sense you can use them anywhere.

At least in my experience. Others may have been luckier/unluckier. I've got files going back to the early 2000s but it has been a constant trial and error with external HDs.
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mrkgnao: As I've said, I've been doing this for years and have never had a problem. That's why I thought they were called "portable". I have a portable eGO HD that's been thrown about in my backpack for at least five years and it's working just fine.

And if I'm not backing up on the one in someone else' s house, then that one is not up to date and useless for me.

But obviously we see things differently.
Doing it a long time doesnt make it better. Yeah the backups out of house are not up to date, so? They are just for absolute emergencies like fires and break ins. Stuff that is way less likely btw than falling over while carrying around a portable (=2.5" which do not need an extra power source, not because you are supposed to keep em in the handbag)
Yes we see things differently, that is why we are discussing them^^

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rtcvb32: If the board goes bad, there's the replacement of it... And yes you can take the board off without opening the drive up. Unfortunately you need an exact replacement, so if you happen to have 2 of the exact same hard drive then you could swap boards to make one work again when it stops. Just hope they don't both stop working at once.

Oh yes, and of course having to run the occasional scandisk/chkdsk/utilities on it. Etc. (Especially when the power goes out an caching or something goes wrong)/
Never did any of this, don't see a reason to on a backup drive. No idea why you are so fixated on the board, if the thing breaks I get a new one.That is why you are supposed to make multiple backups.

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rtcvb32: Not every drive starts as a backup drive. Besides with file updates you sometimes add files and delete older ones. Files do eventually get fragmented, but maybe not nearly as much as we'd see in the old days where you ran defrag every month or so.
On a backup drive it is a non issue.

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rtcvb32: While burned discs aren't...
Ok mrkgnao, better carry 50-200 DVDs with you wherever you go ^^

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rtcvb32: Honestly if you're making regular say weekly backups, you should probably be burning no more than 1-2 DVD's per week, which you could even mail to a friend's place rather than drive there.

Might be better off using a tape instead if you had a HUGE amount of data to backup at a time, or maybe use tapes for the base and then use discs for the incremental backups. After 3 months start over again...

Oh and don't reuse the same disk (floppy or rewritable) for all the disks...

Since we're on the topic...
Why do complicated, just use 3 HDs and park 1 or 2 of them at different places. Weekly backups only for the important personal files which can never be replaced.
Post edited January 03, 2016 by jamotide
1. Seagate Backup Plus Desktop
2. Seagate Backup Plus Slim
3. Seagate Backup Plus Fast
4. WD My Passport Slim
5. WD My Passport Ultra
Top five external hard drives: https://www.cnet.com/news/top-external-storage-devices-backing-up-is-a-personal-matter/
There are many wonderful hard disk repair software tools that you can use to diagnose and fix hard drive issues.
More info: https://www.cleverfiles.com/help/hard-drive-repair-software.html
Post edited March 03, 2018 by devilcoelhodog
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devilcoelhodog: just get the one that has the features you want.
I'm a big "Necroing is just a term gamers came up with so that they can complain and look special while typing with one hand" but even I think that's a waste of effort.