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Get ready for a new DLC for the grand sci-fi strategy, Stellaris – Stellaris: The Machine Age!

It is an age of technological glory, rapid social change, and unbridled ambition… But in the depths of space, a danger unlike any before encountered is about to emerge, a looming threat that will throw the very meaning of life into question. Welcome to The Machine Age, a new Expansion for Stellaris developed by Paradox Development Studio!

Soon on GOG!
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i_ni: Mindbending trailer!
Possible to preorder?
they have already redacted half that they promised in it, are you sure?

NEW ENDGAME CRISIS
[Redacted]

NEW PLAYER CRISIS PATH
[Redacted]

INDIVIDUALISTIC MACHINES
Your machine empires are no longer limited to gestalt consciousness. What is your story? Were you simple servitors who suddenly acquired consciousness? Will you want to indulge in the pleasures of the material world without the consequences that an organic body would have to suffer? Further customize your empire with 3 new Machine Ascension Paths.

NEW CYBERNETIC AND SYNTHETIC REACTIVE PORTRAITS
Explore two new sets of portraits for your species that visually represent your advancement through Cybernetic and Synthetic Ascension.

NEW SITUATIONS AND ADVANCED AUTHORITY SWAP
As you delve ever closer to the mind of the machine, you will have to face new challenges for your society. Every decision matters and the only certainty is that your empire will not be the same after its Ascension.

3 NEW ORIGINS
Cybernetic Creed - Your empire pursues a divine calling: the holy fusion of the body and cybernetics. Augmentation is worship.

Synthetic Fertility - Once a thriving society, a novel genetic disease leaves your empire unable to reproduce biologically. Digital salvation seems the only option to avoid extinction.

Arc Welders - Hailing from a world starved for space, a robotic society turns to the stars for resources.

On top of that, 6 new Civics, 2 new superstructures (the molten Arc Furnace and powerful Dyson Swarm), new Pop Traits, and 7 brand new music tracks for the best in synthetic beats!

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Syphon72: There is a reason several of stellaris DLCs have received mixed reviews on Steam.
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vv221: Yes, but it is not what you think. Most negative reviews are actually posted because of the changes done to the base game at the time of each expansion release, and are not about the actual expansion itself.
This seems highly probable, not unlikely at all, most of the negative i have seen has been about the base game being chsnged due to expansions, but this time they have redacted half of what they promised to start with already..
Post edited March 15, 2024 by capricorn1971ad
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Syphon72: There is a reason several of stellaris DLCs have received mixed reviews on Steam.
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vv221: Yes, but it is not what you think. Most negative reviews are actually posted because of the changes done to the base game at the time of each expansion release, and are not about the actual expansion itself.
I did read reviews like that and negative reviews about the DLC not really adding anything valuable to the game. I am not hating on stellaris. It's a great, easy-to-learn grand strategy game, in my opinion. If not one of the best out there,.

I just feel they can tone it down on shitting out half-ass DLC and maybe focus on the more quality DLC. At least the DLC is not on CK2 and EU IV levels of bad right now.
Post edited March 15, 2024 by Syphon72
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capricorn1971ad: This seems highly probable, not unlikely at all, most of the negative i have seen has been about the base game being chsnged due to expansions, but this time they have redacted half of what they promised to start with already..
I think you might be confused as to what redacted means in this context. When it comes to information it means to obscure. In this case, the content is still there - the developers have decided to not reveal any information about it in a coy way, teasing some of the more requested features but letting it be a surprise as to the actual details.
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Syphon72: Doesn't change the fact a lot of Stellaris DLC is crap and add nothing much.
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vv221: I obviously disagree strongly with this take.

But even if you were right, there is no reason to buy any expansion you do not want to play (I do not buy an expansion until I find at least one empire concept it enables and I would like to play). The base game by itself is already much better than most 4X games out there.
This part of your post got me thinking: PDX offers a monthly subscription option on St. Elsewhere, and one of the questions in the recent GOG survey asks about our stance towards subscriptions, which could hint at an introduction to Galaxy as part of their future strategy. For games like Stellaris, CK II, and maybe someday CK III, this would be a good way to test any DLC and purchase only those one is interested in, and cheap on top. Considering their partnership with Microsoft, I would not rule out the possibility that we will eventually also see XBL subscription offers too, if they indeed steer their ship in that direction. While this would go against GOG's values, so does selling more MP/Online-only games.
Post edited March 15, 2024 by Mori_Yuki
I'm a huge Stellaris fan, but it's been a while since they released something that is worth the money.

Overlord and Toxoids were take it or leave it; Galatic Paragons, First Contact and Astral Planes were all nothing but hot garbage.

Henceforth, I'll wait. And I'm never going to adopt that subscription method. I like to buy my games DRM-Free with Offline Installers for a reason.
Post edited March 15, 2024 by RafaelRamus
The DLC isn't bad but it's not great either
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capricorn1971ad: This seems highly probable, not unlikely at all, most of the negative i have seen has been about the base game being chsnged due to expansions, but this time they have redacted half of what they promised to start with already..
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tremere110: I think you might be confused as to what redacted means in this context. When it comes to information it means to obscure. In this case, the content is still there - the developers have decided to not reveal any information about it in a coy way, teasing some of the more requested features but letting it be a surprise as to the actual details.
Umm, Rsedacted also means "taken back", meaning there will be no new endgame crisis and there will be no player crisis path.. redacted means it isn't happening.. Redacted also means: to remove words or information from a text before it is printed or made available to the public: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/redact , but NOTE they already put it out into PUBLIC and THEN redacted, meaning not to obscure but to forget intentionally, to reverse their words, That is what REDACTED means in this case. Also, the redacted parts are NOT any form of "Sensitive Information", instead they were "Selling Points".

I own EVERY DLC they have made for Stellaris myself, and MANY of them are but 6 megs, when i was young (I am 53 today) an "expansion" for a game usually took up a CD (700 megs). They are spitting out worthless DLCs because people buy them indiscriminately (I am guilty in that too myself mind you).
Post edited March 16, 2024 by capricorn1971ad
"Redacted" is clearly just a teasing of something that has not been announced yet. It matches the style of Paradox's developer diaries for Stellaris.

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capricorn1971ad: I own EVERY DLC they have made for Stellaris myself, and MANY of them are but 6 megs, when i was young (I am 53 today) an "expansion" for a game usually took up a CD (700 megs). They are spitting out worthless DLCs because people buy them indiscriminately (I am guilty in that too myself mind you).
Nowadays many devs handle DLCs by adding the content to the main game and having the DLC exe just unlock it. That is almost for sure the case here.
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ConsulCaesar: "Redacted" is clearly just a teasing of something that has not been announced yet. It matches the style of Paradox's developer diaries for Stellaris.

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capricorn1971ad: I own EVERY DLC they have made for Stellaris myself, and MANY of them are but 6 megs, when i was young (I am 53 today) an "expansion" for a game usually took up a CD (700 megs). They are spitting out worthless DLCs because people buy them indiscriminately (I am guilty in that too myself mind you).
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ConsulCaesar: Nowadays many devs handle DLCs by adding the content to the main game and having the DLC exe just unlock it. That is almost for sure the case here.
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/stellaris-dev-diary-335-announcing-the-machine-age.1626445/?_gl=1*1wbfae4*_ga*MTYwMzQ3MDgxOC4xNzA4NDU4NTY5*_ga_140E4HWMGE*MTcxMDYxNzkxNS40LjAuMTcxMDYxNzkxNS4wLjAuMA..

heres the diary for "the machine age", notice the redacted parts are right there??????????????????????????????

in this case the word redacted doesn't mean what you think it means, it means the idea was scrapped.
we will see soon enough.
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capricorn1971ad: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/stellaris-dev-diary-335-announcing-the-machine-age.1626445/?_gl=1*1wbfae4*_ga*MTYwMzQ3MDgxOC4xNzA4NDU4NTY5*_ga_140E4HWMGE*MTcxMDYxNzkxNS40LjAuMTcxMDYxNzkxNS4wLjAuMA..

heres the diary for "the machine age", notice the redacted parts are right there??????????????????????????????

in this case the word redacted doesn't mean what you think it means, it means the idea was scrapped.
we will see soon enough.
The dev dairy has announced that there will be:

A new Player Crisis Path​
…And a new End-Game Crisis.​
Exactly the same as the game page. They just haven't revealed what exactly these two things are going to be. They have even given the dates at which they will be revealed (April 11 and April 18). "Redacted" is a fancy way to build hype.
Post edited March 16, 2024 by ConsulCaesar
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capricorn1971ad: Umm, Rsedacted also means "taken back", meaning there will be no new endgame crisis and there will be no player crisis path.. redacted means it isn't happening..
No, it absolutely does not mean that; redacted is a legal term and applies to text only. As tremere110 said, they are being coy, and it's meant to pique your interest. This should be obvious. If they were really going to remove features they never even announced, they would not be so stupid as to publicly say so.
I own EVERY DLC they have made for Stellaris myself, and MANY of them are but 6 megs, when i was young (I am 53 today) an "expansion" for a game usually took up a CD (700 megs). They are spitting out worthless DLCs because people buy them indiscriminately (I am guilty in that too myself mind you).
Sigh. The content in the DLC files is not the entirety of the DLC; some or most of it is built into the base installer. There's a reason they update the base game every time a DLC comes out and why the base game is up to 17GB now. For example, the Utopia DLC is about 76MB, but that's just a thumbnail, a zip file containing the music, and a bit of text metadata about the DLC. The rest of it is in the base game and is unlocked if it detects the appropriate DLC metadata. The Anniversary Portraits DLC is just the metadata and a thumbnail, and a literally empty zip file, so basically all of the actual content is in the base game. (Not that there's much of it, but it was free.)

By the way, those CD-sized expansions also cost $60 in today's money. And I hope you wouldn't buy DLC if you really thought it was worthless; that's absurd. I've only bought a few of the DLC that interested me, which is what you're intended to do, not just blindly buy all of it.
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capricorn1971ad: Umm, Rsedacted also means "taken back", meaning there will be no new endgame crisis and there will be no player crisis path.. redacted means it isn't happening..
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eric5h5: No, it absolutely does not mean that; redacted is a legal term and applies to text only. As tremere110 said, they are being coy, and it's meant to pique your interest. This should be obvious. If they were really going to remove features they never even announced, they would not be so stupid as to publicly say so.

I own EVERY DLC they have made for Stellaris myself, and MANY of them are but 6 megs, when i was young (I am 53 today) an "expansion" for a game usually took up a CD (700 megs). They are spitting out worthless DLCs because people buy them indiscriminately (I am guilty in that too myself mind you).
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eric5h5: Sigh. The content in the DLC files is not the entirety of the DLC; some or most of it is built into the base installer. There's a reason they update the base game every time a DLC comes out and why the base game is up to 17GB now. For example, the Utopia DLC is about 76MB, but that's just a thumbnail, a zip file containing the music, and a bit of text metadata about the DLC. The rest of it is in the base game and is unlocked if it detects the appropriate DLC metadata. The Anniversary Portraits DLC is just the metadata and a thumbnail, and a literally empty zip file, so basically all of the actual content is in the base game. (Not that there's much of it, but it was free.)

By the way, those CD-sized expansions also cost $60 in today's money. And I hope you wouldn't buy DLC if you really thought it was worthless; that's absurd. I've only bought a few of the DLC that interested me, which is what you're intended to do, not just blindly buy all of it.
redacted is used in more ways than just "LEGAL", you do understand that right? you seem to think ti is a legal only term but it isn't. So you can use a dictionary, wow, i am impressed, but just so you know they get rewrote every single year too, and as a 53 year old man I remember a day when the word "Redact" or "redacted" meant to remove or take away.

I suppose I am dealing with a bunch of woke persons here when they do things like that.
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capricorn1971ad: I remember a day when the word "Redact" or "redacted" meant to remove or take away.
People misunderstand and misuse words all the time, and have poor memories. That's not what it means, and never has. I assume we can count on you to NOT show up and take ownership of your statements when the DLC is released and we see what the non-redacted version of the contents are.
So, how much is the complete game now? 500+ EUR?
And it's not even finished yet...

What a joke.
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dsx75: So, how much is the complete game now? 500+ EUR?
And it's not even finished yet...

What a joke.
at least it isn't quite as bad as star citizen (LOL), it's still in early access.... only been 10 years and over $600,000,000USD
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capricorn1971ad: I remember a day when the word "Redact" or "redacted" meant to remove or take away.
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eric5h5: People misunderstand and misuse words all the time, and have poor memories. That's not what it means, and never has. I assume we can count on you to NOT show up and take ownership of your statements when the DLC is released and we see what the non-redacted version of the contents are.
say whatever, at the age of 53 I remember a day when it also meant "to take back".
Post edited March 17, 2024 by capricorn1971ad