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Time for some gems from Shiravune games! If you’re a fan of steamy visual novels with piping hot plots – these titles are going to be just perfect for you. Check them out!

Here’s the games joining our catalog:
Holy Paladin Cynthia
Salthe
Tamayura Mirai
Destiny Star Girlfriend
Master Magistrate
Platonically Mauled by a Magic Cougar
Tenioha! feat. Mami

Now on GOG!
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Magnitus: Not crazy about the fact that all of Shiravune's catalog's seem to have mosaics from what I read (which is beyond weird for me, just show what you meant to show... commit to it, don't go 90% and then withhold on the last 10% because of some weird notion that your audience will live in a perpetual state of childlike innocence, especially with everything else you are showing), but a lot of their VNs still look interesting.
Well, they are based in Tokyo so unfortunately they don't have any choice in the matter.
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MarkoH01: Well, they are based in Tokyo so unfortunately they don't have any choice in the matter.
Sure they do. They could simply censor the games for their local audience in Japan, and also, at the same time, distribute the assets for the uncensored versions to their partners in every other country where their games are distributed.

There is no good reason to prevent them from doing that, yet they still don't.

As such, all of their games are unplayable, as the mosaic censorship totally wrecks them, even though it doesn't need to (outside of Japan).
Post edited April 26, 2024 by Ancient-Red-Dragon
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: Warblegarble!
If ARD says so, it must be true! +99% of games should not exist!
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MarkoH01: Well, they are based in Tokyo so unfortunately they don't have any choice in the matter.
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: Sure they do. They could simply censor the games for their local audience in Japan, and also, at the same time, distribute the assets for the uncensored versions to their partners in every other country where their games are distributed.

There is no good reason to prevent them from doing that, yet they still don't.
There is a good reason. If Japanese developers or publishers sell censored versions inside Japan and uncensored versions outside of Japan then Article 175 of the Criminal Code of Japan applies:

(Distribution of Obscene Objects)
Article 175(1) A person who distributes or displays in public obscene objects such as documents, drawings or recording media contained in electronic or magnetic records is punished by imprisonment for not more than 2 years, a fine of not more than 2,500,000 yen or a petty fine, or both imprisonment and a fine. The same applies to a person who distributes obscene records including electronic or magnetic records through the transmission of telecommunications.
(2)The same applies to a person who possesses the objects referred to in the preceding paragraph or stores electronic or magnetic records referred to in the same paragraph for the purpose of distributing them for a fee.
https://www.japaneselawtranslation.go.jp/en/laws/view/3581/en

I also recommend to read this article here.

https://japantoday.com/category/crime/man-arrested-after-using-ai-to-'destroy'-censor-mosaics-in-japanese-adult-videos

Even the use of AI to remove the censored parts can get you in trouble there.
Post edited April 26, 2024 by foad01
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foad01: There is a good reason. If Japanese developers or publishers sell censored versions inside Japan and uncensored versions outside of Japan then Article 175 of the Criminal Code of Japan applies:
It doesn't seem like that would apply for content distributed outside of Japan.

And if it did, then how would you explain why JAST and mangagamer sell some VNs that were made in Japan, but which have had the mosaics removed from them in the versions that are sold on their platforms (and GOG also has some of those too)?
foad01

Even if you say that is the law what about the times hgames were made uncensored by giving them to publishers outside of japan where they uncensored them, giving okay from the japanese companies that they will take care of the translation and they got sent the uncensored version. This happened several times doubt that is the only law.
The only thing in such a case happens that japanese can't buy the version of the game without mosaics.
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: Warblegarble!
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P-E-S: If ARD says so, it must be true! +99% of games should not exist!
I think that someone needs to introduce ARD to the game LOGistICAL (on Steam.) It has 9,821 if you purchase all the DLC packs This should keep him busy for a while so that he can take a break from going into exterminate mode every time he sees a game without achievements.
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Fonzer: foad01

Even if you say that is the law what about the times hgames were made uncensored by giving them to publishers outside of japan where they uncensored them, giving okay from the japanese companies that they will take care of the translation and they got sent the uncensored version. This happened several times doubt that is the only law.
The only thing in such a case happens that japanese can't buy the version of the game without mosaics.
Indeed, I believe Song of Saya and Dead End Aegis were both made in Japan and yet, they didn't have mosaics.

Here, I think this is a choice Shiravune is making not to have someone outside of Japan adapt their games.

Also, its not clear to me what this particular law is accomplishes to begin with. It seems rather dysfunctional to me. If it prevented the depiction of sex, I'd understand (I would disagree, but I would understand), but it clearly doesn't accomplish that. It just obscures a small part of what is depicted in a rather bizarre manner.

It seems unlikely that it will dissuade anyone who considers what they are seeing very interesting from performing their own private adaptation of the visualized content, assuming they manage to find a willing participant. They might have to figure out the blurred bit on their own if that is their only exposure so far, but thanks to biology doing what biology does, that's very unlikely to stop anyone.
Post edited April 26, 2024 by Magnitus
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foad01: There is a good reason. If Japanese developers or publishers sell censored versions inside Japan and uncensored versions outside of Japan then Article 175 of the Criminal Code of Japan applies:
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: It doesn't seem like that would apply for content distributed outside of Japan.

And if it did, then how would you explain why JAST and mangagamer sell some VNs that were made in Japan, but which have had the mosaics removed from them in the versions that are sold on their platforms (and GOG also has some of those too)?
Because it exists doesn't make it legal there. There is uncensored porn in Japan, but everyone involved there is risking getting arrested. This article describes such a case.

https://www.tokyoreporter.com/entertainment/adult-video/japans-av-industry-trembles-following-arrest-of-actress-yui-nishikawa/

The servers for the videos were hosted outside of Japan and the police arrested even an actress.

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Fonzer: foad01

Even if you say that is the law what about the times hgames were made uncensored by giving them to publishers outside of japan where they uncensored them, giving okay from the japanese companies that they will take care of the translation and they got sent the uncensored version. This happened several times doubt that is the only law.
The only thing in such a case happens that japanese can't buy the version of the game without mosaics.
They have to make sure that these uncensored versions don't float around in Japan. Otherwise, they will get in trouble as in the example from above.
Post edited April 26, 2024 by foad01
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foad01: They have to make sure that these uncensored versions don't float around in Japan. Otherwise, they will get in trouble as in the example from above.
America not being #1 prudes. Shame!
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Magnitus: Indeed, I believe Song of Saya and Dead End Aegis were both made in Japan and yet, they didn't have mosaics.
Take a closer look at the publisher it is called "JAST USA" - same thing applies to Mangagamer. Problem stays the same: Japanese publishers will have to abide Japanese law.
I don't personally care, but doesn't Shiravune have several games far more desired than what GOGgers have gotten so far, like the Dungeon Travelers series? Maybe the site that is currently selling them wants to keep them exclusives to bring people in?
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MarkoH01: Take a closer look at the publisher it is called "JAST USA" - same thing applies to Mangagamer. Problem stays the same: Japanese publishers will have to abide Japanese law.
Indeed, they entered a relationship with an external publisher to adapt and sell their games abroad. Couldn't Shiravune have done the same?
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MarkoH01: Take a closer look at the publisher it is called "JAST USA" - same thing applies to Mangagamer. Problem stays the same: Japanese publishers will have to abide Japanese law.
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Magnitus: Indeed, they entered a relationship with an external publisher to adapt and sell their games abroad. Couldn't Shiravune have done the same?
No idea how complicated or expensive this would be ... but yes, you have a point here. Maybe they'll do so in the future.
That's great and all, but why nobody anounced Kara no Shoujo/The Shell coming here? It's one of their stronger titles, and both games came out without any announcement, even though the second part got released around the same time as everywhere else.