То coach one's scum buddies? I always thought it was mostly if not entirely for scumhunting but I may have been wrong. TIL.

If that seems like the best course of action for you - be my guest. It's always nice when your RVS vote finds a good reason to stick.

You are among the more active players so there is more to look at coming from you. In addtion, I've played with some of the other more active players for quite a while and I have some sort of established expectations or meta, if you will, when it comes to what/how they say and do. You, on the other hand, I meet for the first time so your play style and the way you handle yourself is somewhat of a novelty to me.

Yeah, I tend to resort to sarcasm every now and again (sorry if that offends you in any way) but that doesn't mean what I say isn't based on actual thoughts and observations.

<i>Bitch, I might be.</i>

No, but thanks for asking. I just wanted to see whether you considered it a vote.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSX3KG1hisk

@Joe. Vote count please.

I want to see if blotunga's and scene's count.

In underground passages, glowing with an eerie light, Captain Sapphire creeps toward a scraping noise. He peers round the corner to spy a gargantuan alien beast.

2 - Zephyr (ZFR) - Microfishd Trentonlf,
1 - Serpent Rime (SirPrimalform) - Supplementscene
1 - ThrashSeal (Lifthrasil) - Korotan
1 - DeadProng (Dedoporno) - PookaMustard,
1 - M. Moutard (PookaMustard) - ZFR,

0 - Micro Fist (Microfishd) -
0 - The Supplement (Supplementscene) -
0 - Frantic Antics (Fran67) -
0 - Inkblot (blotunga) -
0 - The Canton Calf (Trentonlf) -
0 - The Hypersomniac (HypersomniacLive) -
0 - Koro-Koro Tank (Korotan) -


Not Voting - blotunga, Lifthrasil, Fran67, SirPrimalform, HypersomniacLive, Dedoporno,

ZFR currently holds the most votes at 5 votes away from majority.

Guess not.

Come on Pooka, in Mafia you don't have to coach scumbuddies during the day, you can do that during the night. That much I remember from 20 years ago. Anyway I'm still waiting for some input from our lost souls.

Action phase is night.

Right, I mixed up the terms. This actually adds different meaning to Pooka's question and calls for a different response.


Yes, but only if all scum players who partake in the coaching process live long enough to see the night (a.k.a. Action Phase). If one of them is starting to garner the wrong kind of attention because they don't know better their buddies might feel the need to try and educate them during daytime (Voting phase). This is most prone to happen on D1 as the scum (usually) haven't had the chance to talk, get to know each other and their play styles and coordinate strategy.

What is your opinion on scene this time? Given his 2-3 posts?

His "mea culpa" strikes me a little bit as odd. Though of course it could really be him trying to not make the same mistake he did last game.

Ok, ok. I know everyone is incredibly anxious to know what I think. Well, I don't like Pooka's third position on the Scenewagon, it felt very opportunistic - like they want to get on with lynching someone and don't care who as long as it's not their buddy.
Too early to call it a scum-read, but Pooka is top of my list to avoid a no-lynch.

I guess he is trying to take the critique from the last game serious. So I don't think that him trying to follow the advice from the post-game discussion is a scum-tell. After all I told him that being open to a change of mind was his scum-tell and tunneling with annoying tenacity is his town-tell. So if he is scum he might intentionally tunnel to try to fake a town tell... but all of this is of course WIFOM. So far I am happy that he tries to improve his play and I will need something more solid that a change of playing style to assume that he's scum.

Korotan, however, stays strange. His rage vote isn't a tell either, since he didn't try to make a wagon out of that. But that he disappeared after that vote doesn't make it less strange. And Fran didn't appear at all yet.

So far the only 'might be a scummy newbie mistake' was the opportunistic votes by Korotan and Pooka. Pooka at least delivered an explanation of his vote, Korotan just jumped on the next target, following trent.

I'll be honest, Korotan is on my top list now for avoiding no-lynch. Which I don't like since I'd rather not lynch a newcomer on day 1.

Other than that there is scene for a gut-feeling, Fran for lurking, Pooka for being too eager to vote scene and Lift for the Secret Hitler game.

Depends on the context of the wagon. As I said there's no way Scene would have been lynched or even gotten to one away from being lynched before he had a chance to post and a reaction like ZFR's seemed over the top to me. When I first read the post and ZFR saying "This is a serious vote" and his "OMG, you were all so right! random.org voting at the rvs is so bad." my gut reaction was ZFR was trying to look town, and I find my gut reaction is more often right than wrong. As I said Pooka could still be scum trying to push what looks like an easy wagon early on, but I see ZFR"s reaction more of a tell than Pooka's vote.

Pooka is right too, only way we have to gain any information Day One is to apply pressure on someone to see reactions from everyone. Especially with only 5 days for us to actually try to lynch someone.

I stayed silent because I am not sure if I am wanting to play anymore. For me the border between it is just a game and hurting me real whas stepped and now I am trying to figuring out for myself how I should cover the space between what kind of hero whas created for me and I wanted to be and what kind of fucked up hurted person I am really. I can only say for sure now two things. I am a hero and if I will get killed I will take the chance to leave and came only back in the end to see who whas the assholes.

Sorry, the "this is a serious vote" was just meant to differentiate it from my fake votes on scene. It wasn't meant that the allegations against Pooka were "serious". Maybe I should have used the word "real" instead.

Re the "OMG, you were all so right! random.org voting at the rvs is so bad." I during the previous said I'll stop using random.org since people don't like me using it. The whole ordeal with me rolling a random number, putting a fake vote on it and then pretending to be surprised how indeed my random.org voting in previous games were bad, was just my joke. I thought it's obvious.

Precisely. And that's what I did this game and have always done in previous games. As soon as I have a non-RVS reason to vote someone I do so to judge reaction. Was Pooka's vote a strong scum-tell? No. Was it a weak tell that warranted a vote to judge his (and others') reactions? Yes. And hence my vote.

I have to admit his reaction to my vote did make me view him more favourably.