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Took one peek at the site only to see windows 8 style large images everywhere seemingly as ads for their games or for navigation. God, why can't a good simple clean navigation be present?

As for my thoughts... 'Not another one...'
It's not like Bethesda made any decent game after Morrowind, so I don't really care.
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arxon: It's not like Bethesda made any decent game after Morrowind, so I don't really care.
However they did publish some. Like Dishonored.
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arxon: It's not like Bethesda made any decent game after Morrowind, so I don't really care.
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omega64: However they did publish some. Like Dishonored.
Damn it. You make me think of a bad scenario. If Dishonored 2 is locked on this launcher then it's a big no to me.

Sigh Bethesda, why another launcher? Stop wasting money and use it to rewrite your Elder Scroll / Fallout engine. It's horribly buggy
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omega64: However they did publish some. Like Dishonored.
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kusumahendra: Damn it. You make me think of a bad scenario. If Dishonored 2 is locked on this launcher then it's a big no to me.

Sigh Bethesda, why another launcher? Stop wasting money and use it to rewrite your Elder Scroll / Fallout engine. It's horribly buggy
Yeh Stop wasting your money.

Instead of spending money on your own digital distribution, just keep giving 30% of your PC revenue to VALVe.

http://fortune.com/2015/11/16/fallout4-is-quiet-best-seller/

1.2 Million copies sold via Steam in the first day. $50 a copy of which about 30% goes to valve. Thats $18 Million made by VALVe for hosting someone elses work.
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omega64: However they did publish some. Like Dishonored.
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kusumahendra: Damn it. You make me think of a bad scenario. If Dishonored 2 is locked on this launcher then it's a big no to me.

Sigh Bethesda, why another launcher? Stop wasting money and use it to rewrite your Elder Scroll / Fallout engine. It's horribly buggy
Its kind of in-house since the Dev studio is a sister to Bethesda. Both are ZeniMax owned. Otherwise they probably would make their own new store & new launcher instead :P
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kusumahendra: Damn it. You make me think of a bad scenario. If Dishonored 2 is locked on this launcher then it's a big no to me.

Sigh Bethesda, why another launcher? Stop wasting money and use it to rewrite your Elder Scroll / Fallout engine. It's horribly buggy
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mechmouse: Yeh Stop wasting your money.

Instead of spending money on your own digital distribution, just keep giving 30% of your PC revenue to VALVe.

http://fortune.com/2015/11/16/fallout4-is-quiet-best-seller/

1.2 Million copies sold via Steam in the first day. $50 a copy of which about 30% goes to valve. Thats $18 Million made by VALVe for hosting someone elses work.
Good point. I clearly overlook how much those two franchises makes money.

Still, their most successful game is on an engine that desperately needs overhaul. I really wish Bethesda would allocate some resource to rewrite the engine, not just some makeover they do with skyrim. Never played fallout 4 so can't speak about it
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kusumahendra: Damn it. You make me think of a bad scenario. If Dishonored 2 is locked on this launcher then it's a big no to me.

Sigh Bethesda, why another launcher? Stop wasting money and use it to rewrite your Elder Scroll / Fallout engine. It's horribly buggy
We really need more worst case scenario supporters from guys falling for the pied pipers.... because I just desperately tried to launch Fallout 4 through Bethesda.net - I failed. Please enlighten me, how I can do so.
Pro tip: There is no launcher

Call me to be in denial, but some guys claimed almost a year ago that this is the way Bethesda is heading. However, all of their investigative analysis failed on one thing: basic fact-checking. And up to now, neither the client, the launcher nor the additional DRM has showed up - that's (at least currently) the simple inconvenient truth.

... and for the umpteenth time, Bethesda is sticking / merely upgrading their engine, because a complete rewrite would throw the accumulated knowledge of the modding community out the window. And they don't seem to be THAT stupid.
Post edited May 03, 2016 by Siannah
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Azhdar: I guess B will release Fallout 3, Fallout New Vegas, Oblivion and Skyrim on GOG.
Had you not put a date on when you think that's going to happen, I would have agreed with you. It's not inconceivable that Doom 3 will be released here in the run up to DOOM's Steam release though. Whenever they get around to releasing Oblivion will give us some idea of when they will eventually release the rest. Assuming that they don't forget GOG exists in the meantime.
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kusumahendra: Damn it. You make me think of a bad scenario. If Dishonored 2 is locked on this launcher then it's a big no to me.

Sigh Bethesda, why another launcher? Stop wasting money and use it to rewrite your Elder Scroll / Fallout engine. It's horribly buggy
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Siannah: ... and for the umpteenth time, Bethesda is sticking / merely upgrading their engine, because a complete rewrite would throw the accumulated knowledge of the modding community out the window. And they don't seem to be THAT stupid.
Biggest problem is their engine tied physic to refresh rate, you can't play skyrim or fallout 4 with more than 60fps or physic will break.

And regarding modding capabilities, new engine can be written the way it works like older game in terms how it loads it's data so Bethesda can keep it's modding capabilities of new engine (if theyake one) about the same. Openmw manage to do this with morrowind. Xash3d with halflife. Don't tell me Bethesda cannot do the same.

But I'm the end it's economic reason. New engine is expensive. And since old engine will just work fine on current console anyway I don't see Bethesda making a new one
So now there actually is a launcher, it's coming mandatory with the Creation Kit for Fallout 4. It's still in alpha and only works with the Creation Kit so far, yet the category under which it's listed is called "Games" and there's also an option to "Redeem Code".

I fought the worst case scenario assumptions on facts and facts alone. Now I have to admit, this certainly looks like it will turn into a full client.

So xSinghx and all the others may now come with there "told you so" - I still don't see your strong indications as such and stand by what I said, but in the end have to admit, you were right.
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Siannah: So xSinghx and all the others may now come with there "told you so" - I still don't see your strong indications as such and stand by what I said, but in the end have to admit, you were right.
Well at least you're coming around.

But the facts came at E3 last year:

"Bethesda.net is already being used to support The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited across all platforms, and will be at the heart of all our games going forward." Further Pete Hines doubled down when he added Bethesda.net will provide players with "access" to "games and new features."

https://youtu.be/ldQSioNU1jE?t=23m43s
Post edited May 05, 2016 by xSinghx