Main difference? :P (/s)

I've just commenting on what I've experienced. I was without internet for almost two+ years, in that time steam never stopped working, and could play without problem.

I've moved my steam folder from one PC to the next, moved OS from Windows to Linux, changed distro, moved from running under system wine, to being confined in a PoL virtual drive and only had to reauthorise when I changed my password, beyond that steam worked without tripping the steam guard. I've even whent so far (while living without internet) to have a special USB that I had a copy of steam minus the games, and then would go to the library (ours don't have a lot of security) run it, download the game, go home and copy the game to the right place and play it.


Yet many will accept Galaxy without thinking of it as DRM, yes most games work without it, but try playing multiplayer games and the DRM will stop you :P

When I made a thread a while ago pointing out that GOG has an image problem and badly needs to set a new acronym, everyone told me it was pointless and silly...

Conditionally, *IF* the developer opts for that. Most don't, as some people commented on above, hence threads like this one :
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/drmfree_games_on_steam_uptodate_list Hanlon's Razor. I have to remind myself of this often.

Maybe you should read what I wrote and realize that some games in Steam don't need the client once downloaded, thus being DRM free ;)

And even if you can bypass web, you obviously need your credentials for downloading, which is the same more or less. If not, please tell me how, so I can download all the games I have not in my account! xD

I mean, I don't like Steam myself and only use it because it's cheap, but jeez...

You do realize we didn't talk about the games but the client? How hard can reading be?

Here, let me make it bold for you: Of course you need an account. If you actually read the thread, you would know that several people stated that (including me).

With this, I agree. I prefer GOG, as it's all about DRM-Free. Also, I don't like depending on an Internet connection to get my games (probably a side effect for not having Internet until I was > 16). And even if I use Steam (because it's commonly the cheapest option and I need to buy games in bundles && || when heavily discounted), I share the points you make, and have been complaining about them since I registered an account (back when I finally got that CS 1.6 box...). When I talk to my Steam loving die hard friend, I usually sound like you (but with less convincing power and more curse words, I am afraid... Damn I must improve my speach! xD).

My point was on defending the DRM Free aspects of other clients when they rarely exist. I prefer GOG, but Steam has some DRM Free games. Hell, even Uplay has some DRM-Free games. I have purchased some games, and I can tell you that once downloaded, Assassin's Creed 1, Splinter Cell 1 and SC Chaos Theory, don't seem to need Uplay to even be installed nor an Internet connection. And in these rare cases, they are like GOG (even if just a practical sense), because once passed the credentials login/download steps, the game is yours to move like a GOG installer, but in a portable fashion. So, even if also prefer the certainty and clarity about a GOG game, I hate when someone says that all Steam games are DRM, when there are some that are not.

And finally. I agree on clients are worse than browser access. But I don't think they are DRM by themselves (for a DRM free game, obviously, as other users seem not to grasp that part), as much as they are incovenient (and intrusive). Even if I have not tested it, I read about a "Steam CLI" or something like that, which allowed to download these DRM Free games without the client (specially useful for Linux user I recall to read).

Sorry if I misread/miswrote anything, as I am a bit sleepy. And thanks for making good points and not just a "Steam is DRM, you fagget, read what I said" kind of reply.
I can read. Only you explain yourself in a very shitty fashion. My first reply was in fact directed to your "bolding". But seems that your amazing reading skills didn't let you understand my point.

If you make the enormous effort of reading my first reply and try to link it to your "bolding, you will understand what I was asking for. But that seems a little bit much to ask, so no worries m8 ;)

Maybe you can take a good read at @Midoryu's excelent post "The Steam guessing game for drm-free games" who details some of the points I already made in a better fashion as to why I personally consider Steam to be DRM, in spite of having a few drm-free games. Specially those about the potentially fickle nature of drm-free games on Steam, as that platform doesn't promote them at all. And the fact that you do need to use the client to keep your games up to date.

Apparently not because you talk of games when we talk about the client. That makes no sense at all. And even apart from that. Why ask a redundant question which has already been answered in the thread? We were already done with the conversation and everything was clear.

So next time you reply to someone, make sure your reply is relevant to the quote and/or read the other posts of the person you quoted to make sure what you wrote isn't already redundant because at that point, there were two reasons why your post was completely useless.

Poor underdog steam that needs to be white knighted... *sigh* Steam is no DRM was already on page one; did we already had "all no steam users are filthy pirates"?

How strange. A dedicated steam user has expressed a view, on the steam forum, and I find myself wishing that what he has said was 100% correct.

another one of those steam threads zzzzzzz

I tried this a few years back, and Steam didn't like it one bit.


However, Just tested this now and found it to work surprisingly well, Even installs required dependencies too.

For some reason CIV5 drops out as soon as you launch, might be able to fix it if needed.

But Dishonoured and Dead Island both worked with no hassle.

And I've found out Space Hulk is DRM Free !

Whether or not Steam is or is not DRM depends completely on how you personally define DRM.

End thread.

Steam isn't DRM because this pizza is fucking delicious.