Control is basically THE DLSS techdemo and even there there are some quirks, but, if people like/find it useful I don't see any harm in it unless somehow it gets shoehorned/becomes mandatory.

And, yeah, I've already said it: this time arounnd nVidia made some mistakes (on multiple fronts and for different reasons) with this generation so I t hink that new products are likely.

I'm just curious if I upgrade to a 5000 series Ryzen, what the likelihood of getting a performance boost on my current 5700 XT is with a B450 chipset motherboard. Any thoughts or speculation?

There's unlikely to be any performance boost, except in a few use cases- high fps low resolution, for games- which are CPU limited and helped by the 5000 series.

'SAM' is meant to give a performance gain for pairing a 5000 series/ 500 series MoBo and RX6000. Theoretically, since it's based on a MS/ Windows addition it should work with combinations other than that, and Linux has had a near equivalent for a couple of years, but it isn't really in AMD's best interests to enable it since the idea is to sell new hardware.

OTOH, 5700XT started off slightly behind a 2070 non S and is now slightly ahead of the Super in performance, so there's been a decent improvement over time as the drivers have been refined.

Yes that's actually correct which makes DLSS a bit situational but i do expect it to grow with time, as for super resolution it's still work in progress and things might change so i will reserve my point until this feature has been rolled out but i hope AMD finds a way to make it more neutral and work over a wide variety of games.

Thanks. I think for the GPU I'm just going to settle in, and for the cpu I'm still undecided but considering picking up a PS4 Pro when the price drops in a few weeks instead of a new CPU. Been really great hearing everyone's thoughts on this though.

FWIW...

I'm planning on waiting till late summer or fall 2021 before I make any move on a new system. That'll allow all the manufacturing and driver issues to be ironed out. Though I may spring for a new graphics card for my current rig just because.

And by "new" graphics card it'll likely be a 5600 xt or something (pref amd since I use linux) similar; though I'm not fully wedded to that course of action. My current rig can pretty much handle what's in my library.

Just my 2 cents worth...

What cpu are you upgrading from? Will *that* be a big jump? Because I believe the minimum FPS you get in games relates more to the cpu aspect of things.


Otherwise you might find it a better option to wait and then sell your entire system and buy a complete new setup, especially if you want to take advantage of the full feature set of the new cpu/gpu combos

I use a Ryzen 3600 right now, so not a huge performance increase. Probably similar to the 2600 to 3600 jump I had, which was noticeable, but not crazy.

I, on the other hand, am planning on buying the components for mine near the end of the month. With that said, I'm not buying any of these hot new components, as I don't need them and would rather save money now rather than spend more now and *maybe* save a tiny amount in the future.

(Then again, I'm not even planning on getting any dedicated graphics card anyway.)

Then I would personally save up and buy it later - unless you can find a buyer for your current rig. then go for it

I've been pretty fortunate selling used pc gear, but I don't want to risk it with COVID being very much a thing right now. I think I'll wait.

I have made up my mind to go for the rx 6000 instead of Ampere. Shall wait for independent test results to confirm AMD's performance claims before making the purchase decision. Unless the real-world performance numbers are askew from AMD's benchmarks, it looks like a solid card, even when you consider ray tracing (RTX).

Interestingly, these cards seem to have RTX performance on par with Nvidia sans dlls.

Also, AMD's fidelity fx for its super-resolution feature is a bit of a gamble: https://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/joao-silva/amd-is-developing-an-alternative-to-nvidias-dlss/

However, it's is a gamble that I am willing to take as the RTX 3080 has much lower VRAM.

AMD's upscaling should be based on DirectML which should be the same technology in the XBOX and wanted by Microsoft.

I decided I'm going to hold off on a new gpu and hold off on the 5000 series. I'm going to try to save for a ps5 to carry me the next couple of years, and rebuild my system in 2024 or 2025. I will probably pick up a new gpu late next year...

5900X sold out in seconds or minutes :(

I'm going to try a few local retailers in my area to see if they will be carrying them in the afternoon (probably not but I can wait) aiming at the Ryzen 7 model, if they don't have it I'll probably look into a new monitor that can handle 4K.