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I wonder if it is normal to feel like everything you've written is complete garbage? I read my story so far and while I'm pleased with the plot outline, the scenes and all that, I feel that all I've actually written down is total blergh.

I dunno why, really. Yesterday I was quite happy with most of the stuff, today I feel that it's shit. I wonder if it is my brain telling me to just stop and give up? Wouldn't be a first time.
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KneeTheCap: I wonder if it is normal to feel like everything you've written is complete garbage?
Yes. It definitely is. And it's not just writing. There are a lot of famous authors, artists, and musicians who hated their own work, even if it happened to be the work that made them famous in the first place.
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KneeTheCap: I wonder if it is normal to feel like everything you've written is complete garbage?
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torvuseremita: Yes. It definitely is. And it's not just writing. There are a lot of famous authors, artists, and musicians who hated their own work, even if it happened to be the work that made them famous in the first place.
Is there a way to get rid of that feeling? Or does it come with the territory?
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KneeTheCap: Is there a way to get rid of that feeling? Or does it come with the territory?
I'm not quite sure how to respond, other than that I'm hesitant to make sweeping generalizations, especially about other forum members; in my experience, including myself personally, some people are just naturally self-deprecating when it comes to their work. It could be because they are perfectionists, who always feel they could have done better. Or it could be a lack of self-confidence. Sometimes it's just that you are so close to a creative project, any flaws (real or imagined) seem so obvious and glaring, yet another person who observes it simply enjoys it for what it is, and does not see what you see. For others, it's a bit like stage fright. Paralyzing at first, but it gets easier with time.

I have hated everything I have ever created since the time I was a child, regardless of how much others praised me for it or said they liked it. No matter what others say, I can only look on my own work with contempt. Time has done nothing to improve this, unfortunately.

I really wish I could offer a better answer than this. It may improve over time, or it may never fully go away. I can't really offer any strategies other than trying not to let yourself get consumed by negativity, and seeking objective analysis from others. I'm sorry.

(Edit: Time has does? What does that even mean...)
Post edited September 22, 2015 by torvuseremita
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KneeTheCap: I'd recommend doing what I did and start to write it down. But a word of warning, though. If you can't concentrate now, just think of what will happen when you open the floodgates...
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Tallima: Or play a DnD campaign with some friends and see what characters emerge in your world. :)

Many fantasy novels started with a DnD session.
I already have quite few different characters in my head. My problem is that I don't have any ideas for why they would meet or interact… yet.

As for opening. The floodgates, I have no idea how long I could keep going, it's kinda scary really.
Post edited September 22, 2015 by Leonard03
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Tallima: Or play a DnD campaign with some friends and see what characters emerge in your world. :)

Many fantasy novels started with a DnD session.
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Leonard03: I already have quite few different characters in my head. My problem is that I don't have any ideas for why they would meet or interact… yet.

As for opening. The floodgates, I have no idea how long I could keep going, it's kinda scary really.
Peeps have stories. If you like to write, write! If you want to write for money, write a lot and read a lot!

Putting together a DnD campaign is great medicine b/c it forces you to build the story, interact with others, and take things to new levels.

That said, I've never used any of my DnD campaigns in my writing. They are fun and they help me with creative thinking, but they're not necessary.
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Tallima: Peeps have stories. If you like to write, write! If you want to write for money, write a lot and read a lot!

Putting together a DnD campaign is great medicine b/c it forces you to build the story, interact with others, and take things to new levels.

That said, I've never used any of my DnD campaigns in my writing. They are fun and they help me with creative thinking, but they're not necessary.
So many things to do, so little time. It would be a lot of fun though.
I've been thinking I want to make a game and I have the setting and some of the story figured out (again in my head). I really want to make it as a game so that I can let it end in many different ways. My problem is that I can't bring it to life like I would want, I thought of just making it a text rpg, but I don't know if anyone would play it.
Post edited September 23, 2015 by Leonard03
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Tallima: Peeps have stories. If you like to write, write! If you want to write for money, write a lot and read a lot!

Putting together a DnD campaign is great medicine b/c it forces you to build the story, interact with others, and take things to new levels.

That said, I've never used any of my DnD campaigns in my writing. They are fun and they help me with creative thinking, but they're not necessary.
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Leonard03: So many things to do, so little time. It would be a lot of fun though.
I've been thinking I want to make a game and I have the setting and some of the story figured out (again in my head). I really want to make it as a game so that I can let it end in many different ways. My problem is that I can't bring it to life like I would want, I thought of just making it a text rpg, but I don't know if anyone would play it.
Make it into an RPG Maker game and then I'll put some game codes into it, turn it into one of my annual treasure hunts, and people will enjoy your game while hunting for codes! :)
Okay, I'm getting very frustrated with myself and my apparent lack of skill with writing this story. Everything I write seems to be total garbage again. At least I myself think that...

Perhaps I need to take a small break from it, a day or two. But somehow I feel so guilty when I'm not writing, which is really weird as I am doing it only for myself. And I fear that if I take a break, it just goes on and on. I really, really want to tell this story. To finish it.
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KneeTheCap: Okay, I'm getting very frustrated with myself and my apparent lack of skill with writing this story. Everything I write seems to be total garbage again. At least I myself think that...

Perhaps I need to take a small break from it, a day or two. But somehow I feel so guilty when I'm not writing, which is really weird as I am doing it only for myself. And I fear that if I take a break, it just goes on and on. I really, really want to tell this story. To finish it.
Or just keep writing even if it's garbage. You can always edit later, but you can't edit something you haven't written.
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KneeTheCap: Okay, I'm getting very frustrated with myself and my apparent lack of skill with writing this story. Everything I write seems to be total garbage again. At least I myself think that...

Perhaps I need to take a small break from it, a day or two. But somehow I feel so guilty when I'm not writing, which is really weird as I am doing it only for myself. And I fear that if I take a break, it just goes on and on. I really, really want to tell this story. To finish it.
You can share some written part here if you want. We could criticize it mercilessly :)

This was half serious but you should continue writing. You can always add flavor later.
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KneeTheCap: I wonder if it is normal to feel like everything you've written is complete garbage? I read my story so far and while I'm pleased with the plot outline, the scenes and all that, I feel that all I've actually written down is total blergh.
I think it's normal, and it's also often true. Easiest way to judge is to give it to someone else to read.

A successful writer once said (I think it was either Kristine Kathryn Rusch or Dean Wesley Smith, they both have similar writing advice columns) that it doesn't really matter how bad the novel is, but rather that you get it finished, and then finish another and another. As you write more you'll get better.
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KneeTheCap: Okay, I'm getting very frustrated with myself and my apparent lack of skill with writing this story. Everything I write seems to be total garbage again. At least I myself think that...

Perhaps I need to take a small break from it, a day or two. But somehow I feel so guilty when I'm not writing, which is really weird as I am doing it only for myself. And I fear that if I take a break, it just goes on and on. I really, really want to tell this story. To finish it.
I'm taking the thread late, but : don't think too much : if you want to write, write. You'll always have the time to think about the quality of it after having finished it...
Quality is important, but it is only one part of the process of writing. Some writers can't stand to conitnue their writing if they think that what they wrote isn't good enough, and so they work on it again and again before writting the next part...
Some others simply write and think about this after finishing the "first writting". Do what seems the best for you. If you want to tell this story, keep up this way and tell it :)

What do you mean by "I fear that if I take a break, it just goes on and on" ? (I'm still far from being a perfect english speaker I'm afraid)
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KneeTheCap: Okay, I'm getting very frustrated with myself and my apparent lack of skill with writing this story. Everything I write seems to be total garbage again. At least I myself think that...

Perhaps I need to take a small break from it, a day or two. But somehow I feel so guilty when I'm not writing, which is really weird as I am doing it only for myself. And I fear that if I take a break, it just goes on and on. I really, really want to tell this story. To finish it.
I'm going to sound like a total fortune cookie, but these little tidbits really helped me persevere through the highs and lows that comes with creating content. I just wish I remembered who to credit these to.

"It doesn't get easier, you just get better."
"If you're going to construct the Garden of Eden, you need shit. Lots and lots of shit."
"There will be times when you don't get to decide if your work is good or not. The reader will do that for you."

Keep at it. You can do it.
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KneeTheCap: Okay, I'm getting very frustrated with myself and my apparent lack of skill with writing this story. Everything I write seems to be total garbage again. At least I myself think that...

Perhaps I need to take a small break from it, a day or two. But somehow I feel so guilty when I'm not writing, which is really weird as I am doing it only for myself. And I fear that if I take a break, it just goes on and on. I really, really want to tell this story. To finish it.
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gunshellmav: I'm going to sound like a total fortune cookie, but these little tidbits really helped me persevere through the highs and lows that comes with creating content. I just wish I remembered who to credit these to.

"It doesn't get easier, you just get better."
"If you're going to construct the Garden of Eden, you need shit. Lots and lots of shit."
"There will be times when you don't get to decide if your work is good or not. The reader will do that for you."

Keep at it. You can do it.
I'm not gonna stop writing it, I was just being very critical towards my "work", more than usual. Perhaps I'll just write without thinking of the quality, I can always polish it later, right? That's the lie I keep telling myself.

As for the quality, I know I'm not going to try to get it published or anything, but I do want the end result be so good that it would have a chance, if I wanted to.