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Monk1231: Magic Candle Series - Does anyone have a link for this? I couldn't find a page for the series? discontinued?
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SirHandsome: Its abandonware. Try DJ Oldgames.
Sorry about that. Thought it was on GOG. It really should be, the first one being like classic Ultima, only much better.
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Monk1231: Hey guys, thanks a lot for your suggestions and input. I've read all the posts and didn't expect to get this much of a response, so I'll post below the games I already have that you have suggested, and the games I will endeavour to check out ASAP:

Games I already have:
Lands of Lore
Die By The Sword
Titan Quest
Legend of Grimrock
Planescape Torment
TOEE
Divine Divinity
Divinity Original Sin
Mount n Blade / Warband
Wizards and Warriors
Pillars of Eternity
Pathfinder Kingmaker
Grim Dawn
Avernum series
Geneforge series
Tyranny
Grimoire HOTWE
Witcher 1-3
Wizards & Warriors
Most Arkane Games - Dishonored/Prey
Neverwinter Nights EE (Couldn't work out how to play this, I need to educate myself on how to roll stats and actually play)
SKOTOR
Jade Empire
Gothic 1-3
Eye of The Beholder
Morrowind/Oblivion/Skyrim/Daggerfall/Arena
Fallout series
Dungeon siege series
Spellforce 1-3
Incredible adventures of van helsing
Realms of arkania series

Games I will try:
Nox Archaist
Quest for Glory
DnD: Ravenloft series
Wizardry Labyrinth of Lost Souls
Stonekeep
Legends of Amberland
Ishar Compilation
Age of Decadence
Elminage Gothic
Deus Ex - HR
Ghost of A Tale
Magic Candle Series - Does anyone have a link for this? I couldn't find a page for the series? discontinued?
The Dark Heart of Uukrul
Darklands
Dark sun: Shattered lands
Prey
Druidstone

Games I'm not interested in:
Disco Elysium
Greedfall
Freedom Force (not into superhero / marvel stuff)
Driftmoon
Final Fantasy Series
Elex
Mary Skelter (not into JRPGs)
Shadowrun series
Underail
Wasteland games
ATOM RPG
Tower of Time

If you have any more suggestions, feel free to add them in, I have a lot to try now and won't say no to more!
If you like Fallout 1+2 I'd also suggest Arcanum.

Arcanum on GOG - https://www.gog.com/game/arcanum_of_steamworks_and_magick_obscura

Arcanum is basically Industrial era meets Steampunk meets traditional fantasy characters (elves, dwarves, etc) with some Steampunk/Industrial twists on them.

Also, if you like PS:T - Torment: Tides of Numenera is really good too. Still need to finish that, but it's spiritual successor of sorts to PST.

Torment: Tides - https://www.gog.com/game/torment_tides_of_numenera
Post edited February 22, 2021 by MysterD
So, you like Fallout 1+2 but aren't interested in Wasteland?
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dtgreene: So, you like Fallout 1+2 but aren't interested in Wasteland?
I found that also odd, since they are very similar.

Also...Wasteland 3 is awesome. Played that in PC Game Pass.

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Also found it odd, he has PST, but has no interest in Disco Elysium.
Has Gothic 1-3 and Risen, but no interest in ELEX.
Post edited February 23, 2021 by MysterD
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Zimerius: final fantasy VI ( sadly only on steam )
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dtgreene: Or you could emulate one of the earlier versions of the game (or even try to get the game on older hardware).

With that said, note a few things:
* It's a JRPG, whereas the first post didn't list any JRPGs.
* I honestly think its predecessor, FF5, is a better game.
* Many of the games listed in the OP have class systems. FF6 does not. FF5 does have a job system, which is an interesting variation on the character class system, so if you're going to recommend a FF game, FF5 might be a better choice.
If any i would recommend XIII

graphics are awesome
lightning is a kick ass chick
the anime level is fairly low though you still have to put up with some nonsense
once you passed the introduction fighting with the whole tactics and options not to mention the levelling of characters is quite interesting

i belief the 'jobs' are now skill sets that define the character. Attack, Magic Attack, Tank, Buf, Debilitator, Healer and with different tree's to follow

The game is on the long side and ... really , a measly 2020 pc runs the game fine and , this is hear say btw, the puzzle on the end is pretty challenging if i understood correctly .... oh and it is a trilogy of course !!!
Post edited February 22, 2021 by Zimerius
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Zimerius: the anime level is fairly low though you still have to put up with some nonsense
anime isn't nonsense.
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Zimerius: the anime level is fairly low though you still have to put up with some nonsense
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dtgreene: anime isn't nonsense.
No your right, but if your looking for a traditional rpg j's can be a real fright experience " Like how old does that mofo think i am " styled reactions

take for example the difference between 2 souls brothers Code Vein and Fallen Order, outside the setting, in the basics the games are quite similar but the whole entourage, how characters are presented is like a world of difference. Same goes for Mortal Shell and Nioh for example. There is a complete other level of interaction and expectancy going on here
Post edited February 22, 2021 by Zimerius
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dtgreene: anime isn't nonsense.
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Zimerius: No your right, but if your looking for a traditional rpg j's can be a real fright experience " Like how old does that mofo think i am " styled reactions

take for example the difference between 2 souls brothers Code Vein and Fallen Order, outside the setting, in the basics the games are quite similar but the whole entourage, how characters are presented is like a world of difference. Same goes for Mortal Shell and Nioh for example. There is a complete other level of interaction and expectancy going on here
I heard that it's the worst one though, personally I'd recommend any of the other games. Some feel better, some worse, and in terms of plot they have basically zero fanservice.
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MysterD: I found that also odd, since they are very similar.

Also...Wasteland 3 is awesome. Played that in PC Game Pass.

EDIT:
Also found it odd, he has PST, but has no interest in
Has Gothic 1-3 and Risen, but no interest in ELEX.
Maybe he or she is tired of those particular RPG settings for the time being. Who are we to judge. :)

I am glad to hear more positive things about Wasteland 3 as I was considering the game for purchase in the future.
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Just in response to some of the comments that my tastes are strange, they probably are a bit strange in some areas. I do enjoy No Man's Sky, but I hardly play any other space sim/exploration games, sometimes a single title will just grab me. I must admit, RPGs are the only genre that I play a lot of different titles from. All of the other genres are kind of hit and miss as far as my favorite titles go, to be honest.
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dtgreene: anime isn't nonsense.
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Zimerius: No your right, but if your looking for a traditional rpg j's can be a real fright experience " Like how old does that mofo think i am " styled reactions

take for example the difference between 2 souls brothers Code Vein and Fallen Order, outside the setting, in the basics the games are quite similar but the whole entourage, how characters are presented is like a world of difference. Same goes for Mortal Shell and Nioh for example. There is a complete other level of interaction and expectancy going on here
When I think "traditional RPG". I tend to think of older JRPGs, mainly because that's actually what I grew up on. (Particularly Dragon Quest 1-4 (though 4 is a bit unusual with its forced ally AI control in the Famicom/NES version) or Final Fantasy 1. Not SaGa 1 or 2, as those games have rather unusual mechanics. (How many games let you *buy*, for a price that's cheap enough to not be a money sink, an item that permanently raises a stat? The only things that feel like that are SaGa 3's robots (Game Boy version) and Ultima 3's stat growth method.) One thing that feels odd is the original Dragon Quest; it feels like a traditional RPG, yet it's oddly hard to find games similar to it.)
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Zimerius: No your right, but if your looking for a traditional rpg j's can be a real fright experience " Like how old does that mofo think i am " styled reactions

take for example the difference between 2 souls brothers Code Vein and Fallen Order, outside the setting, in the basics the games are quite similar but the whole entourage, how characters are presented is like a world of difference. Same goes for Mortal Shell and Nioh for example. There is a complete other level of interaction and expectancy going on here
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dtgreene: When I think "traditional RPG". I tend to think of older JRPGs, mainly because that's actually what I grew up on. (Particularly Dragon Quest 1-4 (though 4 is a bit unusual with its forced ally AI control in the Famicom/NES version) or Final Fantasy 1. Not SaGa 1 or 2, as those games have rather unusual mechanics. (How many games let you *buy*, for a price that's cheap enough to not be a money sink, an item that permanently raises a stat? The only things that feel like that are SaGa 3's robots (Game Boy version) and Ultima 3's stat growth method.) One thing that feels odd is the original Dragon Quest; it feels like a traditional RPG, yet it's oddly hard to find games similar to it.)
Yea, consoles...... when i look back it is actually quite amazing to me that we never had access to a console or mini back in the days. I did had a try at zelda over at a friends house, and there was this one summer when a nephew of my mothers best friend stayed over at his grandma and he brought this console with a fps group dungeon runner, we made a trade, he could use my pc to design a castle for the game he wanted to develop and i spend literally whole days running through corridors trying not to get killed but outside those experiences, i belief " the last remnant was my first experience with a true J
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MysterD: I found that also odd, since they are very similar.

Also...Wasteland 3 is awesome. Played that in PC Game Pass.

EDIT:
Also found it odd, he has PST, but has no interest in
Has Gothic 1-3 and Risen, but no interest in ELEX.
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gog2002x: Maybe he or she is tired of those particular RPG settings for the time being. Who are we to judge. :)

I am glad to hear more positive things about Wasteland 3 as I was considering the game for purchase in the future.
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The thing is: Gothic ain't that much different than ELEX. Sure, the settings are a bit different, as ELEX feels like a fantasy-RPG with some more sci-fi elements - but a lot of what PB does w/ quests, NPC's, schedules, and whatnot are similar...to what they've been doing for the last 15-20 years.

Disco Elysium is probably one of the closest things we've got to PS:T, other than Torment: Tides and probably NWN2: Mask of the Betrayer. Though, there's no real combat systems here in Disco. PS:T uses a lot of the Infinity Engine style of party-based combat. Both games haves tons of descriptive proses & tons of dialogue. Though, some kind of combat can happen in Disco's dialogues, which is more based on stat-checks and dice-roll systems. And, BTW....both settings....are weird for a RPG. Nothing traditional about PS:T's fantasy setting; and Disco feels more like a detective-style noir.

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Yeah, Wasteland 3 was awesome. Took like over 60 hours or so to get through it, on PC Game Pass. I'm hoping there'll be more DLC's/expansions or WL4 at some point. I really enjoyed it, since there ain't a ton of NEW Fallout 1+2 style games on the market these days,

I still should pick up ATOM RPG at some point...
Post edited February 23, 2021 by MysterD
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dtgreene: So, you like Fallout 1+2 but aren't interested in Wasteland?
And ATOM RPG too. That's like modern Fallout as well. HEAVILY inspired would be an understatement.
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MysterD: The thing is: Gothic ain't that much different than ELEX

EDIT:
Yeah, Wasteland 3 was awesome. Took like over 60 hours or so to get through it, on PC Game Pass. I'm hoping there'll be more DLC's/expansions or WL4 at some point. I really enjoyed it, since there ain't a ton of NEW Fallout 1+2 style games on the market these days,

I still should pick up ATOM RPG at some point...
I have been eyeing ELEX for a while now and Gothic 1 was fun, though I haven't played 2 & 3 yet. That people say it's a modern Gothic does pique my interest. I may have to get it next time it goes on sale.

ATOM is pretty fun, it has a lot of similarities to Fallout 1 & 2. The fact that the developer priced it so reasonably, is a big plus. I ended up buying the supporter pack because of that.

Not sure about Disco Elysium, it's kinda further down on my list atm. TBH, my wishlist is probably way too long right now lol.

Now PS:T was an unusual game for me back then and at first it wasn't easy for me to get into, but I ended up enjoying it quite a bit. I also do have TToN, but hesitant to start it until I know I can commit the time since I hear it's a lengthy game.
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Post edited February 23, 2021 by gog2002x