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Orkhepaj: Went back to try out something in linux, updated manjaro
lets see steam , oh no black store and library page...

turned out steam runtime didnt update something ,and the new freetype2 font version and they are not compatible ...
these things happen with linux all the time, linux is just wasting time left and right , no wonder most people dont bother with it

if linux wants to be a major desktop they should start stopping distro hopping and put together a standard base companies can use to make apps for , until then it is a huge pile of mess

at least they fixed the voice output channel switcher

oh if you want to join on the linux rant wagon , tell us what was the last thing linux made to upset you
It's a community driven development. Literally there is no they, as each distro is developed by independent teams. There is no "Linux." Linux is a base and the OSes are developed from that base. It isn't a product like Windows where a company is making it to sell to you. It is a box of parts and the distros are teams putting it together the way they want and adding to it what they like to it. In order for Linux to "be a major desktop" as you say, "Linux" would have to exist as an independent entity, and it simply does not.

The standard base you're calling for is what Linux already is, and the distros are what people make of that base. There is no "they" to "distro [hop]" because that's how Linux was designed. For someone who claims to know about things, you always seem to chime in with the wrong information. I used o think you were borderline mentally disabled, or at the very least a very young child with a very limited understanding of the world. Now I just think you troll people because you have nothing better to do.
Post edited September 11, 2021 by paladin181
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timppu: Also I read somewhere ClamAV scanner has the tendency to fail something as infected if it is just unsure... so maybe it is just reporting lots of false positives. I dunno, but maybe I will make my Windows 7 permanently offline, just to be sure. All it means is that I won't be playing Steam or EGS games on it anymore.
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rtcvb32: Well virus scanning is going to either do exact matches, or it's going to look for patterns. AutoHotKeys has triggered many Virus software because it contains blocks of what may be used by viruses. Though if you look at how to write virus books, most of them involve direct calls to the OS so it's not any different really to a normal program. So it probably looks for two to several things found in a variety of viruses and poof flags the file.

Typical activity could include: Searching directories for file(s), opening a file for read/write, copying a block of code or a block of data. etc... usually activities too vague to identify anything.

Perhaps the most incidious viruses would be getting more memory slowly over time and eating up your memory, slowly so it isn't noticed but just being a pain and never releasing it, or writing and filling up your hard drive with some useless files with random data...
My understanding is that, by its very nature, AutoHotKey injects keyboard input events into the event queue (or something along those lines), and it also listens to keyboard input (so it knows when to trigger). This is something that malware could do:
* Send the keyboard shortcut to invoke the Run command, then start a program of the malware writer's choice. This may not be the best way to do nefarious stuff, but it's something that a hardware device could be programmed to do. (If you want to try this with hardware yourself, the Raspberry Pi Pico can do this; I note that there are plenty of legitimate uses for this functionality, like creating your own macro pad.)
* Read the keyboard input, log it somewhere, and then forward it to the application. In particular, this could result in the program logging things like username/password combos, which could then be sent to a remote server under the author's control. (If this sounds like a keylogger, that's because it is.)
Autohotkey by default works like a keylogger on the front end.
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rtcvb32: Perhaps the most incidious viruses would be getting more memory slowly over time and eating up your memory, slowly so it isn't noticed but just being a pain and never releasing it, or writing and filling up your hard drive with some useless files with random data...
It's *really* easy to do this in C, to the point where it's way too easy to do that by accident. Forget one call to free(), and you have a memory leak, and if the program is one that typically runs for long periods of time, that can be a problem.

I know that Oblivion, when Shivering Isles was first released, had a bug that would cause the game to misbehave after a total of somewhere around 80 hours of gameplay, and this is stored in the save file. (According to UESP, this could happen after around 1,000 hours even without Shivering Isles installed.) This, of course, was frustrating for players who had long-running games.

(Fortunately, this bug has been fixed, and should not occur in the GOG version of Oblivion.)

Source: [url=https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Shivering:Reference_Bug]https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Shivering:Reference_Bug[/url]
You went to a non mainstream distro and expected it to perform as what one with 70% of the user base might..
sounds like a pebkac error.
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MaceyNeil: You went to a non mainstream distro and expected it to perform as what one with 70% of the user base might..
sounds like a pebkac error.
it is a mainstream distro , its popularity is in the top3
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Orkhepaj: it is a mainstream distro , its popularity is in the top3
Please just stop saying stupid things without thinking or at least analysing the methodology of that distrowatch website.

That site is not representative of all people who use Linux.

In fact that site is going to get most of its traffic from people like you who as you say distrohop.

Businesses using Linux are not going to visit that website -> a large demographic not represented in those statistics.

People who are happy and settled with their operating system are unlikely to visit that website -> even more people not represented.

So please don't quote "statistics" from a website which paints exactly the picture that suits your narrative of people not being able to use Linux long term because of some distribution's poor design choices.

Yes some Linux distributions are broken and need a lot of maintenance - but some of them are sane and require minimal maintenance. I recommend Fedora for a thoroughly boring distribution that works without problems.
It;s pretty clear that the blame for this issue is with steam, not Linux.
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dtgreene: It;s pretty clear that the blame for this issue is with steam, not Linux.
<shrug> With bugs it is not always a single entity's fault. Looks like Steam this time but next time it might be something in the OS.
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This was really a broken Steam issue, it just happened to manifest in rolling release distros due to an updated package in them (freetype2).Valve fixed it quickly too in a Steam client Beta update.

Stuff like this happens in software, regressions, bugs, incompatibilies etc.

What I'm interested in, is why is the self-proclaimed anti-linux fanatic using Linux and playing Steam games??
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dtgreene: It's *really* easy to do this in C, to the point where it's way too easy to do that by accident. Forget one call to free(), and you have a memory leak, and if the program is one that typically runs for long periods of time, that can be a problem.
True, though when you close the game the leak goes away because the OS handles all that. And a number of languages that have garbage collection you intentionally just ignore what you don't need or don't do manual memory management. Though it shouldn't be used for critical real-time applications. (like say a heart monitor...)

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dtgreene: I know that Oblivion, when Shivering Isles was first released, had a bug that would cause the game to misbehave after a total of somewhere around 80 hours of gameplay, and this is stored in the save file. (According to UESP, this could happen after around 1,000 hours even without Shivering Isles installed.) This, of course, was frustrating for players who had long-running games.

(Fortunately, this bug has been fixed, and should not occur in the GOG version of Oblivion.)

Source: [url=https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Shivering:Reference_Bug]https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Shivering:Reference_Bug[/url]
Mmmm quite annoying...
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rojimboo: This was really a broken Steam issue, it just happened to manifest in rolling release distros due to an updated package in them (freetype2).Valve fixed it quickly too in a Steam client Beta update.

Stuff like this happens in software, regressions, bugs, incompatibilies etc.

What I'm interested in, is why is the self-proclaimed anti-linux fanatic using Linux and playing Steam games??
Because trolls will do anything to get attention... </shrugs/>