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Posted February 21, 2014
The DRM-Free Revolution Continues with Big Pre-Orders and Launch Day Releases!

Good news! GOG.com is going to bring you more fantastic launch day releases, preorders, and other exciting new content from some of our favorite developers. We've lined up 3 big titles that we will be bringing to GOG.com in the next couple of months for sale or preorder that we think will be hits with all of our gamers; and we have more equally exciting games coming up soon.

If you've been a member of the site for a long time, you may recall that when we launched sales of The Witcher 2 on GOG.com, we had to add in regional pricing. The game cost different amounts in in the US, the UK, the European Union, and Australia. We're doing something like that once again in order to bring you new titles from fantastic bigger studios. Since we don't accept currencies other than USD on GOG.com right now, we'll be charging the equivalent of the local price in USD for these titles. We wish that we could offer these games at flat prices everywhere in the world, but the decision on pricing is always in our partners' hands, and regional pricing is becoming the standard around the globe. We're doing this because we believe that there's no better way to accomplish our overall goals for DRM-Free gaming and GOG.com. We need more games, devs, and publishers on board to make DRM-Free gaming something that's standard for all of the gaming world!

That brings with it more good news, though! As mentioned, we have three games we're launching soon with regional pricing--two RPGs and a strategy game--and while we can't tell you what they are yet because breaking an NDA has more severe penalties than just getting a noogie, we're confident that you'll be as excited about these games as we are. For a limited time, we will be offering anyone who pre-orders or buys one of them a free game from a selection as a gift from GOG.com, just like we did for The Witcher 2.

If you have any questions, hit us up in the comments below and we'll be happy to answer (to the best of our ability).

EDIT: Since we've answered a lot of the common questions already here (and lest you think that we've ignored you), it may be handy for you to check out the forum thread about this and search for staff answers by clicking this link here. (hat tip to user Eli who reminded us that the feature even exists. :)
Posted February 24, 2014
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johnnygoging: actually did you check the prices? I just did it's region priced but the usual guys are not being ripped off
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Niggles: "but the usual guys are not being ripped off"

thats the key part. What is reasonable and what is not.
Be especially interesting to see how much Kickstarted games will sell for especially since all of them except Wasteland 2 will not have a retail store release (as far as i know - many have limited Kickstarted only boxed editions)
well for me other than crazy sales tax on digital goods, which is a different animal and not something that valve or obisdian or inxile or deep silver can be blamed for, if nobody is being ripped off than there is no problem with it.
Posted February 24, 2014
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JohnnyDollar: I haven't check on Project E lately. Last time I did it was 2014, but you know how that goes.

How about these 3?:
http://www.gog.com/forum/general/announcement_big_preorders_launch_day_releases_coming/post2603
Well, Deep Silver certainly sounds like a pub that would push for regional pricing. Could you give the non Google-translated link to PCGames.de?

No idea about South Park, Ubi is not only already on board but fits the bill for regional pricing for new games, so not out of the picture.

Now that I think about it, TET said that the first of these games would have been released before they attend GDC and he hinted that it would be their new ace when approaching publishers that turned them down in the past. In order to do so, the publisher of this game has to be a (at least relatively) big name. If this line of thinking holds any water, then InXile and Larian should maybe be ruled out (no offence intended).
Posted February 24, 2014
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HypersomniacLive: Not sure it means much (anymore), a number of crowdfunded games that are now on Early Access, Pre-order or released on Steam are regionally priced (Wasteland 2, Divinity: Original Sin, Grim Dawn, Broken Sword 5 - the Serpent's Curse, Broken Age, come to mind).
How does Steam handle regional pricing? Humble now has a fixed Euro price that is at least close to the actual value in USD, but allows publishers to set their own price. Is Steam doing that too, but with higher Euro prices? Seems weird that Broken Sword has a higher price on Steam than on Humble. If they wanted regional pricing, it would make sense to do it wherever it is allowed.
Posted February 24, 2014
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Silverhawk170485: I see it coming. Every GOG user in future will be from India paying with rupees ... by using VPN. xD
And then they implement region locks. Which equals DRM... And then GOG closes down (which reminds me that I should back up my games someday)
Posted February 24, 2014
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JohnnyDollar: I haven't check on Project E lately. Last time I did it was 2014, but you know how that goes.

How about these 3?:
http://www.gog.com/forum/general/announcement_big_preorders_launch_day_releases_coming/post2603
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HypersomniacLive: Well, Deep Silver certainly sounds like a pub that would push for regional pricing. Could you give the non Google-translated link to PCGames.de?

No idea about South Park, Ubi is not only already on board but fits the bill for regional pricing for new games, so not out of the picture.

Now that I think about it, TET said that the first of these games would have been released before they attend GDC and he hinted that it would be their new ace when approaching publishers that turned them down in the past. In order to do so, the publisher of this game has to be a (at least relatively) big name. If this line of thinking holds any water, then InXile and Larian should maybe be ruled out (no offence intended).
Yeah, I was inferring new launches that will require regional pricing when I posted those. I posted South Park just because I saw it mentioned here earlier. I didn't even bother to look at the publisher. It it's UBi then that's probably a no go since they currently insist on their client DRM with their games. It's not impossible, but...

http://www.pcgames.de/PC-Games-Brands-19921/News/PC-Games-3-14-mit-Exklusiv-Titelstory-Risen-3-Titan-Lords-Vollversion-Assassins-Creed-1110559/
Posted February 24, 2014
actually the euro price on is still a bit too out of line with the USD.
Posted February 24, 2014
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ssokolow: For those who haven't noticed, you might want to vote for one or both of these wishlist entries:

Ban all regional pricing from GOG. Stick with your principles!

Fair Price / Regional Price Badge

The first one has more votes but, if GOG's behaviour regarding Linux versions and the request for an optional, DRM-free Steam-like client are anything to go by, the second one has a better chance of getting implemented.
If the whole regional pricing policy can't be stopped entirely, then that second wishlist option for the "fair price badge" seems like a good solution and I'd encourage everyone here to vote for it. Seems like a good idea all around.
Posted February 24, 2014
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Silverhawk170485: I see it coming. Every GOG user in future will be from India paying with rupees ... by using VPN. xD
Try Vietnam and Dong (yeah, I love that example, especially since experiencing it first-hand).

1 USD in INR = 62.14
1 USD in VND = 21020

(Conversion from Wolfram Alpha.)
Post edited February 24, 2014 by Maighstir
Posted February 24, 2014
I'm not surprised by this announcement. One price for one world was a bit of stretch to begin with. We are not one world with one currency and one economy. Personally, I came to GOG years ago to see if they could get "Baldur's Gate II" re-released and sold. I have backed GOG because it releases older games and DRM-free games. The flat pricing model was never a draw for me. If the price is to high on a game, I just won't buy it. Games aren't food or heat, so I can do without games if the price enters gouging territory.

I haven't read every post, but based on skimming I can see there is a worry that regional pricing will lead to DRM-locked games. I don't think that transition will happen. I'm more worried that regional pricing will lead to region locking of content and more local censorship affecting international releases of games. Region locking and censorship are just as big a threat to freedom as DRM is.

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kroetenschemel: "Transparent pricing" should be the new principle.
I agree with this. GOG should state when a game is regionally priced and what regional pricing has on the game when compared to other regions. I even backed http://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/fair_price_regional_price_badge for this reason.

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TheEnigmaticT: Sales taxes aren't levied on online transactions across state (or international) borders.

At least, for the moment. That may change in 2015 or 2016.
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hedwards: That's not true. It's just that the US government isn't holding a gun to your head to collect or report the sales. The use tax on these purchases is still due, it's just that for many people there's no sane way of even paying the taxes due if the businesses aren't collecting and remitting them.
While the IRS at the federal level isn't holding a gun to your head, there are 'consequences' if you don't report the use tax on state tax forms. The accountant I go to for tax help went ballistic three years ago because some rule changed somewhere and told me I had to start reporting my use tax immediately.

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Kyanti4869: I know man... I know =(
As I said before, time pack the tents and leave this here site.
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Lodium: were woud we going though.
Steam?
Origin? Shudders!!!
U-play?
GMG?
D2D?
Humble Bundle?

Probably dozens more ive forgotten about.
As Eric Hoffer would say, "Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket.” GOG is currently floating between movement and business right now. I hope they don't become a racket down the road by allowing DRM.

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Thunderstone: Whoa, 109 pages of outrage generated in 2 days. Gog really stepped on a hornets nest here 0.o
They should have never called this "Good News!" It is news and it is important, but that doesn't make it 'good'.
Posted February 24, 2014
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HypersomniacLive: Now that I think about it, TET said that the first of these games would have been released before they attend GDC and he hinted that it would be their new ace when approaching publishers that turned them down in the past. In order to do so, the publisher of this game has to be a (at least relatively) big name. If this line of thinking holds any water, then InXile and Larian should maybe be ruled out (no offence intended).
But Larian, inXile and Triumph along with those others kickstarter projects with regional pricing on Steam could triggered this situation. Maybe GOG knew about some big publisher is willing to release games DRM-free but with regional pricing long before all started, but as GOG didn't want to break flat pricing policy, those AAA titles had no chance before...
Posted February 24, 2014
Just about now GOG staffers should be into reading this massive long thread .......
Posted February 24, 2014
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silentbob1138: How does Steam handle regional pricing? Humble now has a fixed Euro price that is at least close to the actual value in USD, but allows publishers to set their own price. Is Steam doing that too, but with higher Euro prices? Seems weird that Broken Sword has a higher price on Steam than on Humble. If they wanted regional pricing, it would make sense to do it wherever it is allowed.
No idea, you'd be better off asking a Steam user about it ;-P


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JohnnyDollar: Yeah, I was inferring new launches that will require regional pricing when I posted those. I posted South Park just because I saw it mentioned here earlier. I didn't even bother to look at the publisher. It it's UBi then that's probably a no go since they currently insist on their client DRM with their games. It's not impossible, but...

http://www.pcgames.de/PC-Games-Brands-19921/News/PC-Games-3-14-mit-Exklusiv-Titelstory-Risen-3-Titan-Lords-Vollversion-Assassins-Creed-1110559/
Oops, forgot all about Uplay.

The only info in that PCGames.de announcement is that there's going to be all sorts of interesting and juicy info in their next edition ;-P


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cyboff: But Larian, inXile and Triumph along with those others kickstarter projects with regional pricing on Steam could triggered this situation. Maybe GOG knew about some big publisher is willing to release games DRM-free but with regional pricing long before all started, but as GOG didn't want to break flat pricing policy, those AAA titles had no chance before...
Not sure I follow your point in relation to my post. Could you please try again explaining it to me?
Post edited February 24, 2014 by HypersomniacLive
Posted February 24, 2014
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kwerboom: They should have never called this "Good News!" It is news and it is important, but that doesn't make it 'good'.
Just read it in a Dr. Farnsworth voice, then it's fitting :D.
Posted February 24, 2014
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silentbob1138: How does Steam handle regional pricing? Humble now has a fixed Euro price that is at least close to the actual value in USD, but allows publishers to set their own price. Is Steam doing that too, but with higher Euro prices? Seems weird that Broken Sword has a higher price on Steam than on Humble. If they wanted regional pricing, it would make sense to do it wherever it is allowed.
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HypersomniacLive: No idea, you'd be better off asking a Steam user about it ;-P
I was hoping one of the Steam users here could answer. :)
Posted February 24, 2014
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HypersomniacLive: No idea, you'd be better off asking a Steam user about it ;-P
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silentbob1138: I was hoping one of the Steam users here could answer. :)
Here you can compare the regional price differences on Steam: http://www.steamprices.com/de
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