Posted February 23, 2017

Themken
Old user
Registered: Nov 2011
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Klumpen0815
+91
Registered: Dec 2012
From Germany
Posted February 23, 2017

People want to stream multimedia contents in 4k, nobody cares about DRM free hardware. Sadly.
If that's important to you, stop buying (new) x86 hardware.
It has been many years since I bought a computer but actually wanted to upgrade this year, not so sure if I want to when there's even more DRM in it now.
Post edited February 23, 2017 by Klumpen0815

Shadowstalker16
Jaded optimist
Registered: Apr 2014
From India
Posted February 23, 2017
Review embargo is Feb 28th correct?

fishbaits
7/4/2012 - 9/5/2017
Registered: Apr 2012
From Ukraine

Shadowstalker16
Jaded optimist
Registered: Apr 2014
From India
Posted February 23, 2017
I wonder when they got the review copies. I'm assuming one week, but there are rumors that many outlets had it for much longer.

immi101
User
Registered: May 2010
From Germany
Posted February 23, 2017

People want to stream multimedia contents in 4k, nobody cares about DRM free hardware. Sadly.
If that's important to you, stop buying (new) x86 hardware.

It has been many years since I bought a computer but actually wanted to upgrade this year, not so sure if I want to when there's even more DRM in it now.
AMD Platform Security Processor (PSP) #amdpsp
This is basically AMD's own version of the Intel Management Engine. It has all of the same basic security and freedom issues, although the implementation is wildly different.
The Platform Security Processor (PSP) is built in on all Family 16h + systems (basically anything post-2013),
For a company to go from being so good, to so bad, in just 3 years, shows that something is seriously wrong with AMD. Like Intel, they do not deserve your money.
Given the current state of Intel hardware with the Management Engine, it is our opinion that all performant x86 hardware newer than the AMD Family 15h CPUs (on AMD's side) or anything post-2009 on Intel's side is defective by design and cannot safely be used to store, transmit, or process sensitive data.
Post edited February 23, 2017 by immi101

tfishell
Remorse: The List, if you like FPS psych horror
Registered: Oct 2010
From United States
Posted February 23, 2017
My first computer was in 2004, had an AMD Athlon 64, 1 gig ram, 256 MB ATI X800 card (replaced a few years later by an nVidia 7600 GT, which I greatly disliked); first week I got it I spent many hours at my grandparents playing Pirates of the Caribbean 2003 PC game and Tomb Raider Anniversary, had DOOM 3 via my uncle also but got a bit too creeped out to go to far. :P
Anyway, hope AMD's new stuff is great, mainly for the competition angle.
Anyway, hope AMD's new stuff is great, mainly for the competition angle.

richlind33
bong hits for beelzebub
Registered: Jan 2016
From United States
Posted February 23, 2017

It has been many years since I bought a computer but actually wanted to upgrade this year, not so sure if I want to when there's even more DRM in it now.

AMD Platform Security Processor (PSP) #amdpsp
This is basically AMD's own version of the Intel Management Engine. It has all of the same basic security and freedom issues, although the implementation is wildly different.
The Platform Security Processor (PSP) is built in on all Family 16h + systems (basically anything post-2013),

For a company to go from being so good, to so bad, in just 3 years, shows that something is seriously wrong with AMD. Like Intel, they do not deserve your money.
Given the current state of Intel hardware with the Management Engine, it is our opinion that all performant x86 hardware newer than the AMD Family 15h CPUs (on AMD's side) or anything post-2009 on Intel's side is defective by design and cannot safely be used to store, transmit, or process sensitive data.

Post edited February 23, 2017 by richlind33

Klumpen0815
+91
Registered: Dec 2012
From Germany
Posted February 23, 2017

It has been many years since I bought a computer but actually wanted to upgrade this year, not so sure if I want to when there's even more DRM in it now.

AMD Platform Security Processor (PSP) #amdpsp
This is basically AMD's own version of the Intel Management Engine. It has all of the same basic security and freedom issues, although the implementation is wildly different.
The Platform Security Processor (PSP) is built in on all Family 16h + systems (basically anything post-2013),

For a company to go from being so good, to so bad, in just 3 years, shows that something is seriously wrong with AMD. Like Intel, they do not deserve your money.
Given the current state of Intel hardware with the Management Engine, it is our opinion that all performant x86 hardware newer than the AMD Family 15h CPUs (on AMD's side) or anything post-2009 on Intel's side is defective by design and cannot safely be used to store, transmit, or process sensitive data.

Do you know of any hardware combination without this BS that is able to run current DRM-free Linux games at 60fps maxed out and can handle WinXP gaming in a virtual system?
I don't care for the latest hardware hungry Windows games at all so there must be something...
Post edited February 23, 2017 by Klumpen0815

fishbaits
7/4/2012 - 9/5/2017
Registered: Apr 2012
From Ukraine
Posted February 23, 2017
Completely forgot to link the AMD talk about the release, oopsies!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1v44wWAOHn8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1v44wWAOHn8

richlind33
bong hits for beelzebub
Registered: Jan 2016
From United States
Posted February 23, 2017

conclusio
that being said, I haven't seen any specific information wrt that topic for the Ryzen processors. But it seems very unlikely that AMD would stop following in Intels footsteps here.

Do you know of any hardware combination without this BS that is able to run current DRM-free Linux games at 60fps maxed out and can handle WinXP gaming in a virtual system?
I don't care for the latest hardware hungry Windows games at all so there must be something...

Maighstir
THIS KNIGHT MISLIKES THESE HEIGHTS
Registered: Nov 2008
From Sweden
Posted February 23, 2017

Do you know of any hardware combination without this BS that is able to run current DRM-free Linux games at 60fps maxed out and can handle WinXP gaming in a virtual system?
I don't care for the latest hardware hungry Windows games at all so there must be something...
Post edited February 23, 2017 by Maighstir

immi101
User
Registered: May 2010
From Germany
Posted February 24, 2017

conclusio
that being said, I haven't seen any specific information wrt that topic for the Ryzen processors. But it seems very unlikely that AMD would stop following in Intels footsteps here.

Do you know of any hardware combination without this BS that is able to run current DRM-free Linux games at 60fps maxed out and can handle WinXP gaming in a virtual system?
I don't care for the latest hardware hungry Windows games at all so there must be something...
so for example the fx8350 (8-core) or fx6300 (6-core) + AM3 motherboard
i am really not that up to date with current released games, so can't really say in how far that is enough for current linux games. Never tried running WinXP games in a virtual system either.

But damn, that price is really unattractive. Wish I had that kind of money laying around ... :p
Post edited February 24, 2017 by immi101

rtcvb32
echo e.lolfiu_fefiipieue|tr valueof_pi [0-9]
Registered: Aug 2013
From United States
Posted February 24, 2017
Processors seem promising. But at the same time i wonder when we'll start getting 12-32 cores. The size they can shrink it is stopping, so it's either optimization or more cores. Or both.
Alternatively we might start getting more SMP motherboards that have room for like 6 cpu's (and one core set as the master/sync for larger projects that make use of it).
Alternatively we might start getting more SMP motherboards that have room for like 6 cpu's (and one core set as the master/sync for larger projects that make use of it).

KoreaBeat
Plucky Detective
Registered: Feb 2011
From United States
Posted February 24, 2017
CPUs seems expensive to me these days, I remember picking up a brand-new Athlon 1.2Ghz for $110, a top of the line CPU at the time. Even factoring in inflation, that kind of money won't get you a mid-range CPU now. A top Geforce3 was $300, people now spend twice that much for a top GPU.