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EDIT: SOLVED, It was my own fault for not making sure my new install of Vortex had LOOT toggled active
I AM LEAVING THE BELOW ONLY UP FOR HISTORICAL REFERENCE

They are supposed to be the same yes?

Alas they are not. I just downloaded a week ago a copy of the GOG game onto my new gaming laptop. Its the only game that laptop has ever seen. (MSI Raider GE78HX 14VIG-600US )

This is what I noticed.

- The T51 Power Armor in its base unmodified form when you find it as T51a, is also rusty. In the steam copy it is the only armor that appears painedt in its base form but in the GOG game it appears like the others unpainted with a rusty texture. I suppose that makes sense and this may well be an intentional update from someone (??). EDIT: FIXED ITSELF WHEN I FIXED MY LOOT ORDER)

- several of my mods do not "hook" into the game and seem to do nothing, and act as placebo files, Impervious Armor, DLC timing and a couple of others.

- The naming of the .ini files is ever so slightly different. I dont have screenshots next to me but I noticed adifference right away

- The GOG copy is less stable even though expected the opposite.

On my desktop with the Steam copy I am almost CTD free and every mod works, from a ~340 mod loadout.

On my laptop with GOG file, I get CTDs every 5-40 minutes, even though my laptop specs are higher than my desktops (desktop: i9 10900 KF, 64Gb DDR4 RAM, 1T SSD for my C drive, RTX 4070; My laptop: i9 14900HX, 64GB DDR5 RAM, late spec 2T SSD as my C drive, RTX 4090 , yes its laptop 4090 so its desktop equivalent is barely a 4080 but still not less than my desktop) and this is also with my mod list culled to only ~ 220 mods.

I wonder if my CTDs are maybe due to the fact that my utilities like UFO4P or Buffout4 may not fully act on the game files, if any of the folders are in any way dfferent?

Summary.

I really believe in the DRM free GOG concept and want to support GOG.
I still have the steam version on my desktop.

I deeply resent Steam for forcing all this bloat on us for accpeting their games (GOG has a similar game management wizard GOG galaxy, but allows you to opt out the GOG galaxy wizard and install the pure file "by hand", which I did).

Tommorrow I hope to be at fast internet and then I will likely uninstall my GOG game (keeping a backup , I expanded my new lapop with an extra 4T SSD) and install the Steam bloatware and Fallout 4 via steam. Sigh

I am not a noob, but I am not a power user either, anyone here at similar problems and found an easy fix?
Maybe an issue with the .ini files?

Please let me know, so I dont have to switch back to Steam, I bought my GOG file so I would have more stable gaming and be protected from Beth and Steam updates.

PS: No issues with load times on the GOG version at least, but my new laptop is faster than my desktop and boht have the high speed physics mod so no surpise there.
PS2: I have less than 24 hrs to decide to either uninstall GOG and reinstall Steam, or to fix GOG because I will head overseas and not have access to my desktop for a long time.
Post edited March 15, 2024 by palmerwmd3
Update : ONe of the FO4 Gurus on nexus is telling me some tricks how to make F4SE mods work on the GOG file. Ill let people know hown it goes.
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palmerwmd3: Update : ONe of the FO4 Gurus on nexus is telling me some tricks how to make F4SE mods work on the GOG file. Ill let people know hown it goes.
I have F4SE mods working with on the GoG version with no tricks. Mind you I don't use a lot of Mods.
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palmerwmd3: Update : ONe of the FO4 Gurus on nexus is telling me some tricks how to make F4SE mods work on the GOG file. Ill let people know hown it goes.
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PeterScott: I have F4SE mods working with on the GoG version with no tricks. Mind you I don't use a lot of Mods.
Thanks maybe not all of them will break.
but it is clear to me many of them do not work properly.
RIght now I think I have a playable game but who knows if any of the no working mods


Amazing Follower Tweaks

Impervious Power Armor

Various extra paintings

Quick Start settlement Gizmo

THe "stop rad storms outside of hazard regions" toggle in NAC-x

DLC timing

and others I just have not noticed as non working yet will not cause crashes.
I have only a few hours of good internet left to make the call to delete GOG and replace with my
steam copy or get confident that I can make the GOG copy work.
Post edited March 12, 2024 by palmerwmd3
Update: It may not be the G file after all but load order issues.
Still working the issue
I'm using all the mods, including but not limited to, AKWR, CBBE, Varied Wastelanders, Sim Settlements 2, and the TARDIS, all working as intended!

I can also confirm, as of .163 version, that the filthy pirated version of the Creation Kit works perfectly, and that it will complain on launch if you downloaded the wrong version, and that I got it from a pinned post on the Steam forums, so I won't promote piracy unless Evil Steam continues to shoot themselves in the foot. The files in the archive published by Steam are DRM-free... lol

Thanks anyway, for getting this one GOG. Perhaps we can pester Bethesda to allow us filthy plebs legal CK, after all, it's zero effort on their part (I could just upload the files I have to our game page for use!), and half the mods on the Nexus are made by pirates, first hand knowledge!

Bethesda would be nowhere without modders, and most of us were pirates following the death of physical media and the rise of overbearing DRM and licenses!
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palmerwmd3: EDIT: SOLVED, It was my own fault for not making sure my new install of Vortex had LOOT toggled active
I AM LEAVING THE BELOW ONLY UP FOR HISTORICAL REFERENCE

They are supposed to be the same yes?

Alas they are not. I just downloaded a week ago a copy of the GOG game onto my new gaming laptop. Its the only game that laptop has ever seen. (MSI Raider GE78HX 14VIG-600US )

This is what I noticed.

- The T51 Power Armor in its base unmodified form when you find it as T51a, is also rusty. In the steam copy it is the only armor that appears painedt in its base form but in the GOG game it appears like the others unpainted with a rusty texture. I suppose that makes sense and this may well be an intentional update from someone (??). EDIT: FIXED ITSELF WHEN I FIXED MY LOOT ORDER)

- several of my mods do not "hook" into the game and seem to do nothing, and act as placebo files, Impervious Armor, DLC timing and a couple of others.

- The naming of the .ini files is ever so slightly different. I dont have screenshots next to me but I noticed adifference right away

- The GOG copy is less stable even though expected the opposite.

On my desktop with the Steam copy I am almost CTD free and every mod works, from a ~340 mod loadout.

On my laptop with GOG file, I get CTDs every 5-40 minutes, even though my laptop specs are higher than my desktops (desktop: i9 10900 KF, 64Gb DDR4 RAM, 1T SSD for my C drive, RTX 4070; My laptop: i9 14900HX, 64GB DDR5 RAM, late spec 2T SSD as my C drive, RTX 4090 , yes its laptop 4090 so its desktop equivalent is barely a 4080 but still not less than my desktop) and this is also with my mod list culled to only ~ 220 mods.

I wonder if my CTDs are maybe due to the fact that my utilities like UFO4P or Buffout4 may not fully act on the game files, if any of the folders are in any way dfferent?

Summary.

I really believe in the DRM free GOG concept and want to support GOG.
I still have the steam version on my desktop.

I deeply resent Steam for forcing all this bloat on us for accpeting their games (GOG has a similar game management wizard GOG galaxy, but allows you to opt out the GOG galaxy wizard and install the pure file "by hand", which I did).

Tommorrow I hope to be at fast internet and then I will likely uninstall my GOG game (keeping a backup , I expanded my new lapop with an extra 4T SSD) and install the Steam bloatware and Fallout 4 via steam. Sigh

I am not a noob, but I am not a power user either, anyone here at similar problems and found an easy fix?
Maybe an issue with the .ini files?

Please let me know, so I dont have to switch back to Steam, I bought my GOG file so I would have more stable gaming and be protected from Beth and Steam updates.

PS: No issues with load times on the GOG version at least, but my new laptop is faster than my desktop and boht have the high speed physics mod so no surpise there.
PS2: I have less than 24 hrs to decide to either uninstall GOG and reinstall Steam, or to fix GOG because I will head overseas and not have access to my desktop for a long time.
Thank you for the honesty there, it isn't easy to admit you were wrong, takes character. I came here to read and then posted my experience below. In my experience, modding FO4 as a pirate was easier than using the Evil Steam, and as a GOG customer even easier (no torrent). I've frozen 163 and some major mods offline, along with the pirated CK I was using anyway. Nobody can take my game away, ever, and I paid CD Project their well earned fees to feel better, as I said, Steam is evil and piracy is 100% justified, they are ruining preservation.
Post edited March 15, 2024 by webmistress