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Posted August 04, 2015
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TPR: I don't want to take you down or something but... it already happened some time ago. It was a big change after some legal actions IRL against companies which sale software. Conclusion was: "if you bought it you can sell it". That's why you can no longer BUY games at Steam - right now paying customers can RENT them only (software as a service).

And Valve has said: "If you do not agree your Steam account will be closed". Everything legal. "These aren't the droids you're looking for. You can go about your business. Move along... move along." :-/
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shaddim: In Europe, the right that we buy software is defended, also against EULAs whcih tell otherwise.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gregvoakes/2012/07/03/european-courts-rule-in-favor-of-consumers-reselling-downloaded-games/
True. But this article is 3 years old. Right now you can't BUY software/games on Steam because UE grants right to RESELL (even if you're end user/customer). Right to resell means you must buy it first. You can't do this anymore because Steam is not selling but renting games - Valve is selling access to service (not product). That service is "access to software". Crazy? Yes! Like lawyers talk is... :-|
Posted August 04, 2015
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shaddim: In Europe, the right that we buy software is defended, also against EULAs whcih tell otherwise.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gregvoakes/2012/07/03/european-courts-rule-in-favor-of-consumers-reselling-downloaded-games/
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TPR: True. But this article is 3 years old. Right now you can't BUY software/games on Steam because UE grants right to RESELL (even if you're end user/customer). Right to resell means you must buy it first. You can't do this anymore because Steam is not selling but renting games - Valve is selling access to service (not product). That service is "access to software". Crazy? Yes! Like lawyers talk is... :-|
This court ruling goes even further:
The ruling denotes a very important point here, which ties into DRM-locked titles:"Where the copyright holder makes available to his customer a copy – tangible or intangible – and at the same time concludes, in return form payment of a fee, a licence agreement granting the customer the right to use that copy for an unlimited period, that rightholder sells the copy to the customer and thus exhausts his exclusive distribution right. Such a transaction involves a transfer of the right of ownership of the copy. Therefore, even if the licence agreement prohibits a further transfer, the rightholder can no longer oppose the resale of that copy."

If a license agreement grants the right for infinite usage (like Steam does), it was an sale and ownership of the copy was transfered, even if the license states something else.
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