Bethesda owns the label "Fallout." They have the legal right to stick it on anything they want, no matter what it is. If they want to turn Fallout into a cheap knockoff of a MONOPOLY board game, they can do it. That doesn't make it Fallout unless your judgement of things goes no deeper than face value.

Aside from creating a buffer between the conflicting views of Bethesda fans and Fallout fans, it makes a lot of sense for Fallout and nuFallout to have different forums. The games have very little in common beyond superficialities. They're radically different in time of origin, mechanics, POV, and design philosophy.

Please continue to accuse me of trolling.

My judgement doesn't matter. Your judgement doesn't matter. If Bethesda decides that Fallout is officially a monopoly game, Fallout is officially a monopoly game and you can't do shit about it. GOG cares about official definitions, not about "But I don't think that Fallout game is enough Fallout fot Fallout!" bullshit.

It might shock you, but a lot of people who liked the original games also liked the new Fallout games, me included. If you think separation of subforums would magically stop people from mentioning and talking about the new games in threads about the old ones and vice versa, you're badly mistaken. Case in point.

Actually, at this point, I'm accusing you of being a bloody idiot because you seem to be serious, which makes it even sadder. Not only you're incapable of avoiding topics you do not wish to talk about by your own admission, you're also joining in this juvenile behavior of "I don't like that thing the other people like, let's make that thing seem bad!" It reminds me of my 5 yo nephew who broke a toy his friends were playing with so they go back to the toy he likes, except the age average on these boards is somewhere aroud 30 yo.

The reason why I decided to stay a member of GOG discussion boards was that, from all the boards I was frequenting at the time, this was the first time in my life that I've seen mature, civilized and well-thought out arguments about Fallout 3, without people attempting to constantly downplay the game with snarky remarks every chance they got. The reason why I'm limiting my activity on GOG boards is because idiots like you exist, so well done, enjoy your bloody victory.

And no, at this point I don't even care that I have to swoop down to your level to even make you elaborate on your points. After all, at that time, I've had to simplify concepts I wanted to communicate to my nephew as well.

In that case I'll be buying the rights to System Shock. When I turn it into a text-based teen vampire romance simulator called System Shock 3, you'll just have to get used to it. It's a dead franchise, so you should be grateful.

It doesn't surprise me at all. Would is surprise you to know that a lot of people who liked the original games intensely dislike Bethesda's treatment of the brand, me included? Unlike you, we have nothing to look forward to, so I'd say you're actually the one who won, 100 per cent. All people like me have left are our opinions. I'm going to be keeping mine, thank you very much. I can back it up with facts, and I have done so many times.

I'd say that proves my point. I stated my opinion. Other people stated their opinions. You're the first one who has come out swinging - it's not a coincidence that your appearance here coincides with the release of Bethesda's properties on GOG.com. I've been here for years, offering help to anyone I can. And yes, if it comes up, decrying Bethesda.

Clash of opinions aside, look at the sticky threads in the Fallout forum. There are already enough, I'd say. You really think this board would be better mixing in more threads for Bethesda's games too, assuming they make their way to GOG.com eventually? I don't.

And clash of opinions NOT aside, it makes sense to have separate boards for Bethesda's Fallout games because I won't be posting there at all. I don't want to put up with that just as much as Bethesda's fans don't want to put up with me.

You can try Bethesda's boards. They delete all the snarky posts and ban the posters, which I think is what you're looking for.

Honestly, this anger is a one-way street. I don't hate you or think you're an idiot. It bothers me that you don't seem to care about maintaining the original intent and vision of the brilliant designers of Black Isle, without whom there would be no Fallout for Bethesda to buy. If you had ever created something cool, then had someone else with a lot of money come along and buy it purely to exploit it for their own business interests, you might change your tune.

Like I said, you get to have new Fallout games you don't hate. I don't. Bethesda destroyed a franchise I liked in order to make games you like. You might want to remember that, because it's not opinion; it's fact for a lot of people. What you don't get to have is new Bethesda Fallout games and a world where no one says anything bad about them. That's not my fault; it's Herve Caen's fault and Bethesda's fault.

First wait and see if Morrowind sells good enough to warrant releasing Oblivion.
If Oblivion sales spike good enough from gog release, we'll get Fallout 3.

They just might be super fast and push it around the same time Fallout 4 launches,
to maximize brand visibility. But that's unlikely, imo.

My guess: Oblivion this christmas, fallout 3 next summer.

Or the pessimist estimate: Morrowind doesn't sell, nothing else from beth comes to gog.

Okay. Make sure to re-release SS1 while you're at it, I'm tired of constantly pirating a working version.

Seriously tho, reviving a dead franchise and continuing it with something different changes nothing. I can still play System Shock 1 and 2. Why should I care? There are more franchises I'm a fan of, and there are some I now consider "dead" due to new releases, but you won't see me running around, decrying them and all of their fans. What, did you think Fallout fans are some sort of special snowflakes?

Cute. For future reference, there's a 'registered' date right below an avatar. There's also a rep number, which is pretty damn useless, but can serve as a decent indicator of a member's activity. Might be written in the same font as thread titles are, probably why you missed those. Anyway, I believe I should also remind you of your first post in this topic, which went along the lines of "Fans of new Fallout games really annoy us with their talk about new Fallout games!" Sure, not taking swings at all. And before you pull "But that's my opinion!", my opinion is that that behavior is insanely idiotic.

a) I'm still waiting for a reasonable explanation of how difficult reading thread titles is. I don't know, I always do - and when it's a topic I do not wish to discuss, I don't open it. It's pretty simple actually.
b) You're still acting as if there's no conjunction between Bethesda fans and original Fallout fans.

Oh I don't know enough to hate you. I'm not even particularily angry, more along the lines of sad and disappointed.

How exactly do you expect to change any of that by constantly denouncing Bethesda, their fans and their games? It only has one effect, which is creating a more hostile environment - that's it. The reason I don't join most online communities is that I have difficulties with controlling how I express myself when a comment riles me up. The reason I felt like I could join these was that this quite simply did not happen at the time. Discussions were on entirely different level. As a matter of fact, while googling my name in these subforums, I found the topic I was referring to. It's befrore the game's release, sure, but at that time I was frequenting three discussion boards - two of them had people with significant ammount of utterly idiotic comments, like yours, and then there was this one, in which even people not liking what they have seen took time to politely express their worries. The boards actually deserved to be called "Discussion" boards back then. I'm pretty sure there's only one trollish, ill-explained post in that entire topic.

So, just do tell me - if you claim there's no anger involved, what's your goal? Where are you going with this behavior? Right now, all you're going to achieve is reinforcing opinion of people liking Fallout 3, as that is the automatic defensive reaction. So what exactly is the grand scheme here aside from being an ass? And that question actually sort of applies to anyone doing that sort of crap.

People loathe Fallout 3 and love Fallout 1 and 2 from the same reasons some people love Chopin and loathe pop crap music that is cramping all over and - note - sells better than Chopin's.
Now imagine that someone buys "Chopin" label and releases some kind of Lady Gaga bullshit crap under that label. Chopin lovers will crap their pants from hatred and it's totally understandable.

I won't be surprised if some people won't get it still.

Well... yeah.

But it's actually much more like, if fans of old Tarzan books by Edgar Rice Burrgoughs were told there'll be new Tarzan books by another author, or movies based on the books that have nothing to do with the original books, or even worse, have borrowed heavily from the books but still don't get it, have lost their soul somehow.

And there has been new books and comics and movies and radio shows, and the fans of the original books have thrown fits for about a hundred years now. But the original books are still there, just fine.

Also, Star Trek fans (like me) got our pants in all the wrong places after seeing the new movies. But the original series are fine. (Us Star Wars fans are not quite as lucky, but let's not go there now).

It'd be completely different if someone wrote not just new Tarzan books, but Tarzan books under the author name Edgar Rice Burroughs. Then it'd be like the Chopin thing.

Oh I understand why you hate Bethesda. I don't get why waste energy on hating an entertainment company on creating a different product to the one you love under the same name, but it's your energy to waste and it's not what I'm talking about at all. What I'm talking about is this juvenile tendency to try and troll and discussion on Fallout 3 into "Fallout 3 is terrible!" All you do is bring down quality of such discussion - you don't actually harm Bethesda or Fallout 3 in any way, you just make yourself look like an ass and fortify Fallout 3 fans in their fandom by pushing them. Your end result is going to be the exact opposite of what you might aim for and you bring down quality of community and discussion itself down with you. ... Fantastic work, I guess? I mean, Bethesda is definitely going to feel that blow!

TL;DR

I don't see why we couldn't have F3 here (ignoring the it's not a Fallout game discussion).
The GOTY is €19.99 on Steam. GFWL shouldn't be an issue. I have the retail version and never installed GFWL nor did I ever encounter any errors related to it.
As far as builds go, GOG has mentioned in the past that they had to be creative with some titles as the copyright owners didn't always have the original discs/builds anymore forcing GOG to get retail copies from eBay or through other channels.
Hopefully getting F3 here, would also mean getting NV here.
Should it/they get here, you can vote with your wallet.

Fallout 3 is not so bad

I wish that Gog would release an optimized version for Fallout 3 GOTY. I got the steam one to run after a LOT of finnigling, but it still crashes a lot.

Anyone have a permanent fix for Windows 10 and Fallout 3 GOTY?

its 2022 and there is still no proper patch to make this game run on modern machines.
just workarounds that don't really work.
The best way to play this game in 2022 is the Xbox 360 version through either xbox cloud gaming or on series S/X consoles, its 60fps on those!

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