I actually can play this game while I'm at work XD

It made me sad first, but then, suddenly I realised something. I should be happy when people have better than me. And change my job :P

Checked it out and it seems like you're in the right, Lukier. Even one wood/iron is enough to start the production of advanced units. So yeah.

And answering your question - yeah, I had a job where I could play games :P. Let's just say that writing articles to newspaper is sometimes very lax... and sometimes 'oh s***' job :D

You are right,too, maheuz, if you dont have the resource, yoyu pay for each one that is required, so sometimes 2 or 3 times wood for a building. But if you have one wood, no extra payment.
This is very well explained in the help text under every resource when you right click it.

I'm glad they get more expensive due to a lack of resources. I was worried it was due to how many of each troop you had already recruited. Resources are nice but I never specifically scout for them. So far I've found dungeon crawling gives me enough gold to not have to worry about iron etc, but it can be costly early in a shard when every gold coin counts.

Later on you can also use the extras for trade as part of your diplomatic options.

Yeah about that, I've only had the chance to use diplomacy once, and it was when that Oionor guy (100 karma and he uses skellies? haha!) and a local lord were combating for control of a shard, and he'd gift stuff to me at random until he defeated the other lord and then turned on me.
I just want to know is it actually possible in the campaign to form a more or less permanent alliance? I was peeking at the in-game dialogue for one of the lords (Naughty me I know, but I really wanted to know if that dragon-Master was neutral, evil, or what. Thankfully he's neutral, so I've got the chance at being nice with him without having to be a necromancer or demonologist :P
He and Orionor seem to be a little grumpy with each other, but they don't hate each other. I guess that comes from the Dragon having 0 Karma and the creation master having 100 ^_^ ) and one of his lines mentioned "We defeated our enemies together, now do you want to war with me or leave?" and the other was very similar but ended with "...I'll give you this shard in honor of our friendship"

I'm assuming most if not all of the Masters have variants of these lines that more or less do the same thing, but can you actually have a Master like you enough in the campaign that he'd willingly give up a shard, or is that a Skirmish thing only?

Being good (Wise or Just) myself I allied with Oinor on one shard during the campaign and once the Local Lord was dead he asked if I wanted to fight him for it or if we should flip a coin to see who got it, from those lines you dug up I'd assume with higher Karma he might have just given me the damn thing instead.

Haha... He asked you if you wanted to flip a coin? Really? XD

*siiiiiighs* Back on the subject of expensive crossbowmen... I'm really starting to get discouraged here. 8th shard I come across Oionor again, and this time managed to rush him and beat him in under 50 turns.
Next shard was uneventful, consisting of only a local lord. 10th shard? I meet up with that necromancer Oionor was griping about, and I do fairly well at first... Well okay early game was terrible, I got a lot of kills midgame, but late in the game everything fell apart in every sense of the word. No Iron at all - literally, and guards were 320 - 480 gold a pop, yet his heroes would wipe them without losing a single unit in most cases.

I finally got to his castle after wiping his Ranger (Which was using a MINOTAUR and spamming Raise Ghoul between every turn) and had to rush back to my castle to resupply, which cost me nearly 2,000 gold (Again, no Iron mines. Seriously - searched the four hills in my territory and the two I stole from him to 100%... No iron. None. Only thing I got was Marble in my territory.)

I managed to get to his castle again and siege it with a healthy team, a lot of horsemen and a priest, and a number of T1 healers, and my weapon breaks when he sends his commander after me and I lose one unit. Next turn, his Wizard. I kill him losing two of my horses. Then his Ranger comes up, with two Assassins, a Minotaur of all things, a Thug, and a few weak units. If I fight on my own, I see he spams Double-Shot and Raise Ghoul, and I often lost only killing a few of his. Auto-Combat fares much better, managing to kill everything but the Hero and the minotaur - injuring the latter while barely scratching the former.

So I'm broke, lost my hero twice, and prices for the only units that can dent his forces are almost 300g for a T1 unit and nearly 400 for the horses. And again, I'm terribly underequiped, with the only piece of armor that is worth while being a Gloves of Valor and the only weapon that isn't a common item is a sword. Oh yeah and I wasted my Phoenix contract too. If I could have summoned those into my party that freak of nature would be off that shard by now. V_V


Honestly, I've been hearing people saying they're on shard 30+ or are finding Skilled too easy, and I'm strugglign with Beginner. If I rush the enemy, it's mostly up to luck since I'll rarely get the time to pick up any good equipment. If I wait around and explore every little thing, I end up doing twice as poorly.


Is a very fun game up until you're trying to hold back an ocean by building a dam of twigs and pebbles - which is basically what I end up doing almost every time another Master shows up. I'm beyond amazed I even got this far on this run.
I learn fast, but I never really master anything, which is why I rarely venture into the higher difficulties games offer. But if I'm doing this terrible on the lowest difficulty? Really hurts my confidence ^_^;

@Rezca which hero do you use? I often use a warrior->berserker who levels really fast and can start to smash his way through guards solo with level 10-12 even without good equipment. After he has gotten to that point I just rush to the enemy castle and take it before he can build any nasty lategame units :D

Good equipment can easily be obtained with random events, just smash the statues, dig up graves, make contracts with the devil, steal the smiths sword, all in all just be a greedy bastard.

Btw I find skilled to easy as well but every time i have a bad start on confident (upper right corner of the map 4 times in a row -.-) I´m mincemeat.

Mostly the Scout to start with and then Warrior second. Personal preference, but I don't really like the 100% Warrior route in games, nor do I really like the 100% Wizard sort of playing.
When I go Scout, the next thing I pick up really depends on what is offered on level up (Seems to be random?) or on what I need at the moment. I've only once gone full-Archer and it was on accident when I wasn't paying attention to the level up screen. ^_^;
Usually I like mixing him with a Wizard or Commander.

Really though, with how terrible I'm usually doing, I figure I should just forget about having fun doing what I like, and just do what works =/


Ah yeah see, that's one thing right there. Sometimes when I'm doing real good I have time for crypt, tower, forest, etc searching... But I hardly ever pick the more greedy or ebil choices when Random events come up, even if it deprives me of a better reward. Sometimes I do end up digging up the graves rather than building the obelisk, and the first time I decided to do so I was surprised at the nifty rewards I got.... Second time? Well... The population got slaughtered because [No Reward] and [Lots of undead attacked]. Bad news is I didn't notice I had no guards there, and didn't realize that such a thing could happen (Is shot for being stupid). Good news is that the population was composed entirely of useless Goblins in an equally useless swamp (100% explored, no tactical resources, Points of Interests already cleared out, income less than 10 in goth gold and gems).

Hmm the statues you mean the "good luck" one that you have the option of throwing a festival, or the "nuu it's made by our enemiez!" option, or the "Just ignore it" option?


Heh yeah sometimes I get such a cruddy start. I ended up bailing and abandoning that shard I mentioned in my last post, and went after a Tiny one. Skilled AI showed up, and my warrior was flailing about struggling to do things while only getting a few gold per turn. Yeah. I do so much better when I start off as a Scout D=

Maybe I'm just too cautious in the early game.

I meant the "nuu it's made by our enemiez!" option :D

Gold problems? Famines plagueing your citizens? That´s a chance to make money.
Seriously early game the evil options in random events are far better then the good ones, especially these which give gold. Later when you have a big empire and a lot of gold to spare you can make up for it by building a lot of pubs and choosing the good options.

The warrior really needs the chainmail to be efficent at level 0 and every point in the armor mastery he can get. With 2 points in the armor mastery he can pretty much solo free settlements and go on a rampage, which seems to give more experience to the hero then going with a lot of troops.

IMO swordman are the best tier 1 unit in the game, they really help in the start, deal good damage and can tank a lot. They are worth there price even without iron.

Aw crap. Game might be starting to display some bad habits 'Heroes of Might and Magic 3' had. That is, it'd not work properly until tweaked by the user, would run smoothly for some time, then experience crashes that would bring down the entire computer with it. By that I mean the game would lock up or crash, and the screen would just sit there - frozen - but the taskbar on the desktop would still work. Can't Alt-Tab into anything else, can't F4 to close the game, and can't see Process Explorer's screen to kill it manually. So far Eador as only done that once, and has been simple "Program has stopped working" crashes but only rarely.

I'm hoping that was a one-time thing or just really bad luck, and that it's not starting to mess up like HoMM did for me.

Random crash aside, I reverted to the beginning of the shard by exiting the game and pasting the save folder I copied elsewhere upon starting the shard just in case. This time I did a bit better financially... Until the necromancer Master from before started banging on my door with a level 8 Ranger equipped with three tribal warriors and a bowman and killed my warrior. As I was going back a turn to instead flee back to my capitol, that's when the game locked up my computer.



I just don't think I'm cut out for this game (Especially since the "Advice" threads here seem to have stopped being posted in =P ). Love playing it, but I'm so terrible at it.


*edit* "IMO swordman are the best tier 1 unit in the game, they really help in the start, deal good damage and can tank a lot. They are worth there price even without iron."

Yeah I was using those for a while in this recent shard, but I got three of them, they all died after capturing a few provinces, and once I got three more I got slaughtered by the enemy's hero >_>

Sounds like you just need to expand/level faster :D (helpful words, i know :d)
If i don´t have a terrible start im usually 5-6 levels ahead of the enemy hero when i first encounter them, which means they stand no chance.
The difficult thing is to get to that point fast enough. If you can´t fight at least once every three-four turns you are screwed.

Yeah that's probably two thirds of my problem right there - I don't expand fast enough and I'm not aggressive enough. I end up spending a lot of my time scouting and not doing much because I'm afraid. I don't take enough risks I guess ^_^;

I'm often many levels ahead of the AI too, and sometimes I end up finding something that totally breaks my hero (Gryphon Arrows and a pretty neat crossbow I forget the name of in one shard, where I could take down a Stone Golem in two shots... And a Scroll of "Create Stone Golem" in another. Ranger both times XD ), but lately I haven't had that sort of luck.