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So i liked the first game.
Masters of the broken world suppose to be only the remake of genesis.
But i heard a lot of bad things about the imperium.
So i do not know which one to pick.
Thanks for the info,
Cheers,
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Seweryn: So i liked the first game.
Masters of the broken world suppose to be only the remake of genesis.
But i heard a lot of bad things about the imperium.
So i do not know which one to pick.
Thanks for the info,
Cheers,
Maybe none :(

I've tried - but new engine killed it for me - to slow, more clicks for everything, less readable, etc.
And after watching streamer ignoring bug with killed unit in combat still doing damage as this would be an usual thing i lost faith in remake.

P.S. Maybe try 'The new horizons mod'
Post edited December 03, 2019 by Wiszcz
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Seweryn: So i liked the first game.
Masters of the broken world suppose to be only the remake of genesis.
But i heard a lot of bad things about the imperium.
So i do not know which one to pick.
Thanks for the info,
Cheers,
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Wiszcz: Maybe none :(

I've tried - but new engine killed it for me - to slow, more clicks for everything, less readable, etc.
And after watching streamer ignoring bug with killed unit in combat still doing damage as this would be an usual thing i lost faith in remake.

P.S. Maybe try 'The new horizons mod'
For what game ?
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Wiszcz: P.S. Maybe try 'The new horizons mod'
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Seweryn: For what game ?
New Horizon is a Genesis Mod.
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Wiszcz: Maybe none :(
Yes, that's very sad, devs use an engine they are not able to actually patch, so instead they added many features.
Both 3D games could be in my prefered, but I uninstalled them and reinstalled first Eador.
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Wiszcz: Maybe none :(
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ERISS: Yes, that's very sad, devs use an engine they are not able to actually patch, so instead they added many features.
Both 3D games could be in my prefered, but I uninstalled them and reinstalled first Eador.
I only have 10 plus hours on both Genesis and MotB release.
Genesis's graphic is dated, but running smooth.
MotB runs super slow if you didn't adjust the speed setting. Once it is set (need to try different scales), it runs quite well for me.
Also I didn't encounter any game breaking bugs on MotB. I think it is well patched now.
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wongheiming: I have 10 plus hours on MotB release.
I didn't encounter any game breaking bugs on MotB. I think it is well patched now.
When the bug will rise (such as the still alive killed enemy), you'll no longer want to pass hours on the game.
I have hours too, I insisted, like the devs.
Post edited December 23, 2019 by ERISS
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ERISS: When the bug will rise (such as the still alive killed enemy), you'll no longer want to pass hours on the game.
I have hours too, I insisted, like the devs.
This should fix the zero HP units among other things (in motbw): https://ufile.io/9e0pqtkt

Place among the other .pak files in your Eador folder.
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Totorokissabussi: should fix the zero HP units among other things (in motbw)
Thanks. Is that usefull for Imperium too? I hope the "other things among" won't happen.
This fix should be sticked here in forum.
Post edited December 29, 2019 by ERISS
It does not work for Imperium unfortunately.

Here's what it changes:

- Cases where unit remains standing on the battlefield after being killed have been drastically reduced.

- Fixed a bug when, in some cases, the loot window and follow-up query window wouldn't show up after battle.

- Fixed a bug when campaign quests wouldn't trigger if the quest location was located in the top-left province of the shard map.

- Swiftness ability no more allows casting spells after attacking.
This allowed the Mercenary hero class to shoot or attack up to 9 times in a single turn when coupled with Astral Energy spell, which is probably unintentional.

- Shields can no longer be used with two-handed items in online battle mode.

- Egg Laying (Black Widow skill) no longer freezes the game at the end of the battle.

- Battlecry (Centaur Chief skill) now correctly depletes stamina.

- Allows to spend up to 6000 points (from 1000) on your army in online battle mode.
Post edited December 30, 2019 by Totorokissabussi
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Totorokissabussi: - Cases where unit remains standing on the battlefield after being killed have been drastically reduced.
- Swiftness ability no more allows casting spells after attacking.
This allowed the Mercenary hero class to shoot up to 9 times in a single turn when coupled with Astral Energy spell
. Remaining killed reduced? there are still some?
. Shoot 9 times is in 'only' one turn for a battle, and it means the ranger has used all his spells, so it was very strong but it had drawbacks.

However, thanks, I reinstalled MotBW. For how long??
Post edited December 31, 2019 by ERISS
I haven't encountered anymore zero HP units with the fix, but you can never be sure with that bug.
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Seweryn: So i liked the first game.
Masters of the broken world suppose to be only the remake of genesis.
But i heard a lot of bad things about the imperium.
So i do not know which one to pick.
Thanks for the info,
Cheers,
It's a bit tricky choice, but I would tell that Eador: Masters of the Broken World is a reasonable choice (just buy it during some discount). Imperium on the other hand - I would suggest to avoid it.

MotBW has some bright points, like normal save game (thing missing in Eador: Genesis, which always annoyed me), multiplayer in all flavours (so not only hot-seat, like in Genesis) and "normal" animations of units (while I love Genesis, I must admit that with its lack of almost any animation and "moving tokens" it's a bit dry in terms of experience - after all, we're playing in video games, so expecting some kind of "treat" for video and audio is not prepasterous demand).

I personally didn't encounter "bugfest" in MotBW, like many reviews says. In fact, for the first time I've encountered game-breaking bug in Eador: Genesis, where the fact that one of the AI opponents used one of the available spells made the game broken and I couldn't continue anymore my session (it was skirmish on single shard).

It's true however, that MotBW can be a bit too demanding (or slow working) comparing to how it looks, but now, a couple of years after release it's not a problem even if you own 2-3 years PC. So if anything I've mentioned (save game, multiplayer, animations) is a plus for you, I would suggest to consider buying MotBW. If not - then stay with Genesis.

Currently a strong point of Genesis is mod New Horizons (in fact it's now working without base Eador: Genesis, I'm not sure how about legality of it (it contains base game files), but in terms of gameplay - it's a really wealthy and worth attention stuff). Plenty of new units, events etc. It's a gem and solid thing for any Eador fan.

I'm completely not recommending buying Imperium. It doesn't bring something really worth attention, it has cut off multiplayer completely and I didn't see that it improved anything comparing to its predecessors.