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Used Cranium basher for a few days and finally replaced it but for some reason my mana pool will not give me back the 34 magic points worth of mana back into my mana pool so it will show my mana pool being at 1 or 0 and therefore being unable to cast anything...
Any Suggestions?
Post edited March 24, 2019 by Duhripper
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Are you also wearing an item "of corruption"? Those prevent you from getting your mana above zero. If you are not, and you drank a mana potion, your mana should be fine now.
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advowson: Are you also wearing an item "of corruption"? Those prevent you from getting your mana above zero. If you are not, and you drank a mana potion, your mana should be fine now.
I've never even found a "of curruption" to be honest.
I tested the maul on a new warrior and the original manapool is restored but on my main it doesn't. =(
Have you been clicking on shrines/goat shrines/cauldrons?
Some of them ruin your mana level. It's better not to click any of them, unless you know what they do (in the case of shrines).

If you don't mind sharing your character, I can fix his mana level.
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Gotcha: Have you been clicking on shrines/goat shrines/cauldrons?
Some of them ruin your mana level. It's better not to click any of them, unless you know what they do (in the case of shrines).

If you don't mind sharing your character, I can fix his mana level.
Is not entirly true, the lower level you are and less current manapool you have the less of an impact taking those shrines will have and raise your noob spells beyond what you can read from books.
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Gotcha: Have you been clicking on shrines/goat shrines/cauldrons?
Some of them ruin your mana level. It's better not to click any of them, unless you know what they do (in the case of shrines).

If you don't mind sharing your character, I can fix his mana level.
Tbh I read up on those shrines late last night and I most likely did get those bad shrines. Will read up on shrines next time and not be a noob haha. My warrior is level 29, name is Duhrippin.
Thanks guys!
Post edited March 25, 2019 by Duhripper
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Gotcha: Have you been clicking on shrines/goat shrines/cauldrons?
Some of them ruin your mana level. It's better not to click any of them, unless you know what they do (in the case of shrines).

If you don't mind sharing your character, I can fix his mana level.
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Duhripper: Tbh I read up on those shrines late last night and I most likely did get those bad shrines. Will read up on shrines next time and not be a noob haha. My warrior is level 29, name is Duhrippin.
Thanks guys!
If it comforts you, when I checked my old characters, they each lost a lot of hitpoints and mana due to not knowing what shrines did and that black death zombies permanently lower your hitpoints.
My sorcerer had half the mana he was supposed to have and my warrior had 99 hitpoints less than what he was supposed to have, no doubt thanks to them zombies.

You can really mess up your character good.
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Duhripper: Tbh I read up on those shrines late last night and I most likely did get those bad shrines. Will read up on shrines next time and not be a noob haha. My warrior is level 29, name is Duhrippin.
Thanks guys!
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Gotcha: If it comforts you, when I checked my old characters, they each lost a lot of hitpoints and mana due to not knowing what shrines did and that black death zombies permanently lower your hitpoints.
My sorcerer had half the mana he was supposed to have and my warrior had 99 hitpoints less than what he was supposed to have, no doubt thanks to them zombies.

You can really mess up your character good.
Haha black zombies?? Oh man I probably let them devour my hitpoints a few times for sure hahaha
EDIT: looks like I'm actually not missing hitpoints which I'm surprised about its just my dang mana. =(
Post edited March 26, 2019 by Duhripper
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deseiz: Is not entirly true, the lower level you are and less current manapool you have the less of an impact taking those shrines will have and raise your noob spells beyond what you can read from books.
No, it is entirely true. This tradeoff is not worth it for any character you plan to have use much magic. The spells aren't even that good compared to what you lose. According to Jarulf's Guide section 4.1.5 page 74, Firebolt requires 177 magic to read the final level. With the right equipment, even a Warrior can get to 177. (Specifically, according to 2.1.2 page 6, a warrior can get 225 magic in Diablo (not Hellfire) with perfect +magic equipment.) Holy Bolt and Charged Bolt require 255 to read the final level, which puts them out of range of a Warrior or Rogue.

Generally, Warriors have such low maximum mana that you should not sacrifice it to improve their ability to cast weak spells.

If you really want to max out spell levels on a Warrior, the easiest way to do it is to read as many books as you can, then use Enchanted Shrines to ascend the rest of the way. The Enchanted Shrine drains 1 level from 1 spell (which you can get back by reading another book of that spell) in exchange for increasing the levels of all other known spells. However, it does not cause you to learn any spells you did not already know, so you should try to learn as many unique spells as possible before you start hunting.
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Duhripper: Tbh I read up on those shrines late last night and I most likely did get those bad shrines. Will read up on shrines next time and not be a noob haha. My warrior is level 29, name is Duhrippin.
There is a mnemonic from the old days to help you with this. The bad shrines are Fascinating, Ornate and Sacred, which led someone to suggest the mnemonic "Find Other Shrines." Of course, with the ability to pull out a cell phone and check the shrine via mobile browser, it's easier than it once was to learn whether a shrine is good or bad. Back in the old days, we had to minimize Diablo and fire up a browser on the computer to go check such things.

Considering your loss of mana, your warrior is well-named. ;)

Never activate a Goat Shrine or a Cauldron. Both are random shrines which pick from among the named shrines, but there is no way (without cheating) to know what it will pick until after the effect has happened, at which point it is too late to decide whether you want the effect. Since both are activated by clicking on them, this also means you should avoid fighting too near them, lest you accidentally click it while trying to click a monster.
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Duhripper: Haha black zombies?? Oh man I probably let them devour my hitpoints a few times for sure hahaha
Black Death zombies, which are bright yellow, contrary to their name. Players who intend to keep a character long term often adopt the policy that if you see a Black Death, you leave the floor immediately. Abandon the game if necessary.

There is no in-game way to repair the damage from FOS shrines or from Black Death zombies.
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deseiz: Is not entirly true, the lower level you are and less current manapool you have the less of an impact taking those shrines will have and raise your noob spells beyond what you can read from books.
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advowson: No, it is entirely true. This tradeoff is not worth it for any character you plan to have use much magic. The spells aren't even that good compared to what you lose. According to Jarulf's Guide section 4.1.5 page 74, Firebolt requires 177 magic to read the final level. With the right equipment, even a Warrior can get to 177. (Specifically, according to 2.1.2 page 6, a warrior can get 225 magic in Diablo (not Hellfire) with perfect +magic equipment.) Holy Bolt and Charged Bolt require 255 to read the final level, which puts them out of range of a Warrior or Rogue.

Generally, Warriors have such low maximum mana that you should not sacrifice it to improve their ability to cast weak spells.

If you really want to max out spell levels on a Warrior, the easiest way to do it is to read as many books as you can, then use Enchanted Shrines to ascend the rest of the way. The Enchanted Shrine drains 1 level from 1 spell (which you can get back by reading another book of that spell) in exchange for increasing the levels of all other known spells. However, it does not cause you to learn any spells you did not already know, so you should try to learn as many unique spells as possible before you start hunting.
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Duhripper: Tbh I read up on those shrines late last night and I most likely did get those bad shrines. Will read up on shrines next time and not be a noob haha. My warrior is level 29, name is Duhrippin.
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advowson: There is a mnemonic from the old days to help you with this. The bad shrines are Fascinating, Ornate and Sacred, which led someone to suggest the mnemonic "Find Other Shrines." Of course, with the ability to pull out a cell phone and check the shrine via mobile browser, it's easier than it once was to learn whether a shrine is good or bad. Back in the old days, we had to minimize Diablo and fire up a browser on the computer to go check such things.

Considering your loss of mana, your warrior is well-named. ;)

Never activate a Goat Shrine or a Cauldron. Both are random shrines which pick from among the named shrines, but there is no way (without cheating) to know what it will pick until after the effect has happened, at which point it is too late to decide whether you want the effect. Since both are activated by clicking on them, this also means you should avoid fighting too near them, lest you accidentally click it while trying to click a monster.
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Duhripper: Haha black zombies?? Oh man I probably let them devour my hitpoints a few times for sure hahaha
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advowson: Black Death zombies, which are bright yellow, contrary to their name. Players who intend to keep a character long term often adopt the policy that if you see a Black Death, you leave the floor immediately. Abandon the game if necessary.

There is no in-game way to repair the damage from FOS shrines or from Black Death zombies.
Very helpful information thank you!!
Gotcha did ask for my character name but from what you said he cannot help which is a bummer. Guess I will have to start over. =(
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Duhripper: Gotcha did ask for my character name but from what you said he cannot help which is a bummer. Guess I will have to start over. =(
He asked for your character, not just its name. Diablo is (in)famous for how hackable it is/was. For someone with the right cheat tools, it'd be a trivial matter to change a character's mana up or down to any value. I think his offer was that you send him the file for Duhrippin, he would use a cheat tool to reset the mana value back to what it should be based on your level, class, and statistics, then he would send you the modified Duhrippin. This would essentially erase the effects of those shrines. Since the shrines gave you very little real value in exchange for the severe damage they caused, some people would forgive using cheat tools to reverse the damage. (It'd be a different matter if the tools were used to advance you to far beyond what you have earned or could earn...)
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Duhripper: Gotcha did ask for my character name but from what you said he cannot help which is a bummer. Guess I will have to start over. =(
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advowson: He asked for your character, not just its name. Diablo is (in)famous for how hackable it is/was. For someone with the right cheat tools, it'd be a trivial matter to change a character's mana up or down to any value. I think his offer was that you send him the file for Duhrippin, he would use a cheat tool to reset the mana value back to what it should be based on your level, class, and statistics, then he would send you the modified Duhrippin. This would essentially erase the effects of those shrines. Since the shrines gave you very little real value in exchange for the severe damage they caused, some people would forgive using cheat tools to reverse the damage. (It'd be a different matter if the tools were used to advance you to far beyond what you have earned or could earn...)
Ahhh the fun old school method haha. I will just have to be more careful next time. Its nice to atleast know how it happened for the future. =)
Indeed, what advowson said. :)
I'd use an editor to give you your mana points back: the amount that you should have, based on your level/magic.
You def. hit some nasty shrines...

Don’t touch Sacred Fascinating or Ornate shrines