boumbh: Am I the only one who was shocked at the beginning of Chaos on Deponia when it makes you kill the bird? Is "picking up a hammer" a reason good enough for killing a living creature?

I get the "John Thomas" joke. I get the absurdity of the scene. But... killing is badong, I played a bit more of the game hoping that John Thomas would have survived, then I searched the forum about it, couldn’t find any clue...

What is the point about playing a humorous game if you can’t stop mourning throughout it?

That’s highly frustrating, I love point and clicks, I love absurd... did Daedalic manage to make one type of absurd point and click that is incompatible with me?

boumbh: I get the "John Thomas" joke.

Guter: Could anyone please elaborate on what the ""John Thomas" joke" might be?
Is there the same (a similar one) in the german version?
Thank you! :-)

boumbh: Now I think that’s the point...

The game points out that the baby dolphins are cute and intelligent, and their parents are depressed and are stated to be smarter than Roofus.

The reason for killing baby dolphins is only because Roofus is too stupid to notice the obvious cat flap on the door.

The motivation of the designer was not just to be cruel, but to be *gratuitously* cruel. And thinking about it, they did great.

The John Thomas episode is a good introduction to this humour (which I still need time to digest). The fact that doc and Utz keep talking about how the bird is tortured without looking shows us who is holding the reins. It’s a bit like a puppet show with the children shouting "he’s there ! behind !", but you are the villain, and the ending is bad.

Some games force occasionally the player into making stupid actions. Deponia plays the player into doing everything he doesn’t want to do. They pushed the vice to the farthest.

For the risk that was taken by the designer, for the strange humour, for the love of getting fooled, I should like it, but yet I don’t.

The balance is strange. obviously, I can’t identify with anybody. The main character is terrible, the narrator is too shallow. That’s the problem, if you can’t identify, you don’t get involved.

Killing baby dolphins in order that Roofus opens his eyes is absurd, but it’s also stupid and very very unlikely. Happily, since I didn’t get involved with the game, I just don’t care about the dolphins. People die, animals die, Goal is abused, Roofus swears... That’s all about Deponia.