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I don't normally enjoy adventure games but the type of puzzles in Dark Fall and the atmosphere really swung it for me. So which of the above games is the more spooktacular? (sorry).
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I'd say The Lost Crown :)
I didn't get to finish Lost Crown all the way through but I definitely jumped a bit and got some goosebumps from it :) I haven't played scratches so I can't say about that but Lost Crown was spooky to me.
Post edited December 18, 2011 by craziichas
I haven't played very far in scratches, but I've heard its more gory and "traditional" horror-like than Dark Fall.

I own the lost crown; haven't gotten around to playing it yet lol. I don't like that its a third-person adventure game, (the CGI people really make things not scary in my opinion) but its the same creator as dark fall and anything he does seems to be magic.

If you're like me one of the greatest things about the dark fall series (especially DF2) is that its freaking scary without being gory or violent. So I'd say go with The Lost Crown based on what I've heard.
Its funny I seem to have gone in reverse to you, I dont normally like these games either but really enjoyed Scratches (love spooky atmospheric games). And ended up downloading Dark Fall in an attempt to play somthing similar.

I havent played The Lost Crown, but Scratches was great, highly recommended.
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BobBlusoe: I haven't played very far in scratches, but I've heard its more gory and "traditional" horror-like than Dark Fall.
I wouldnt say that, its more suspenseful and spooky than anything, I jumped out of my skin a couple of times in the dream sequences. The closest the game comes to gory, are the stories in a couple of the diary extracts you find dotted about the house.
Post edited January 31, 2012 by Genryu1983
A bit late, but I'll add my score point to Lost Crown.

Scratches is not bad - far from it - and it manages to be pretty creepy overall, in fact some parts were almost scary even. But the overreliance on flags to solve the puzzles, especially all the times you need to call your friend on the phone, didn't make it very enjoyable for me.

The Lost Crown is pretty much my favorite adventure-horror game. It actually manages to be a lot creepier than most others - especially the ghost hunting parts, but even the daylight parts have a creepy air about them - and does so while still giving you lots of dialogues and meaningful puzzles. Also, it's one long game. It will take a long time to finish, and yet, it never feels fillerish. My one gripe would be that it starts relying on some jump scares in the second half, but nothing big. It remains mostly creepy.

I'd agree that Boakes seems to turn everything into gold, but unfortunately I didn't like Lost Souls much. It went for the classical jump scare method almost all the time. Also the movement system was too slow and cumbersome.

On similar games, I'll add that I also quite liked Barrow Hill's setting and atmosphere, and I'd like to check out Rhiannon too (when I find it for a decent price). Now if only Bracken Tor would actually come out...
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Malek86: A bit late, but I'll add my score point to Lost Crown.

Scratches is not bad - far from it - and it manages to be pretty creepy overall, in fact some parts were almost scary even. But the overreliance on flags to solve the puzzles, especially all the times you need to call your friend on the phone, didn't make it very enjoyable for me.

The Lost Crown is pretty much my favorite adventure-horror game. It actually manages to be a lot creepier than most others - especially the ghost hunting parts, but even the daylight parts have a creepy air about them - and does so while still giving you lots of dialogues and meaningful puzzles. Also, it's one long game. It will take a long time to finish, and yet, it never feels fillerish. My one gripe would be that it starts relying on some jump scares in the second half, but nothing big. It remains mostly creepy.

I'd agree that Boakes seems to turn everything into gold, but unfortunately I didn't like Lost Souls much. It went for the classical jump scare method almost all the time. Also the movement system was too slow and cumbersome.

On similar games, I'll add that I also quite liked Barrow Hill's setting and atmosphere, and I'd like to check out Rhiannon too (when I find it for a decent price). Now if only Bracken Tor would actually come out...
the lost crown is scarey in the graveyard/chruch scenes & I must add I love this game, scratches is creepy but dark fall lost souls is the creepiest game ever. The sequel to the lost crown "last crown" has been announce for a release in 2013 finally.
Post edited November 17, 2012 by plumgas
The biggest problem with "The Lost Crown" is that it is blatantly unfinished. Without giving too much away, there are four enemies that are played up as the "serious" threat in the game, and the fourth one just never shows up. And then the game just ends, right in the middle of the third act. It isn't even a cliffhanger, really, it just... stops.

That being said, I still massively prefer it to Scratches, which I found mediocre and utterly predictable. Hopefully "The Last Crown" will retroactively complete what "The Lost Crown" left undone.
Post edited November 30, 2012 by Azilut
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robobrien: I don't normally enjoy adventure games but the type of puzzles in Dark Fall and the atmosphere really swung it for me. So which of the above games is the more spooktacular? (sorry).
hey there robobrien

i apologize in advance for my english, it is not my native language.

yes i know, a very belated post but, oh well, i'll post it anyway.

a lot to read, but please do, i think it will help.

as i played and love both games, i must say this is not really that kinda choice. the only similarity between the two games is that they are both horror point-and-click games. other that that, they are really different. the narrative, the atmosphere, the point of view, the style, the art design, the story, the voice acting, everything else, is something else, it gets addressed in an unique way by each game. each has something different going for itself. the puzzles are equally good i recommend them both, although my personal favorite is The Lost Crown, i think it is a masterpiece. but... this is the problem, it is a subjective choice. you might not like TLC as much as i did, you might like Scratches better, cause our tastes might differ.

SO... with that being said, i will provide you with a list of differences between the games (as objective as i can write them) so you can make your own choice. (this is all from my memory so if i get something wrong, i apologize) NO SPOILERS, JUST BASIC STUFF YOU WILL FIND IN EVERY ADVERTISING.

Scratches:

Main Character and Premise: you are Michael Arthate, you are a author, you need inspiration for your next book so you acquire an old victorian manor. during your stay here you hear strange scratch-like noises at night. curiosity being your second nature, you venture into investigating this noises, revealing the manors dark past.

Presentation and Story: the story unveils over the course of the three nights you spend at the manor. you can explore the whole estate during this days in a semi-linear manner. it is not your typical narrative, it is a puzzle like story, you have to put the pieces together, and figure out what really happened (the director's cut version of the game gives you the answer in a 10 minutes expansion called Last Visit). the nights are structured like acts (act I,II and III). it is played from a first person perspective, and you can look around you, since every screen is constructed in a 360 way. you are a modern man in a old victorian house, a fish out of water, so you get that grungy dusty feel from the art style. it is so, a solitary experience since you are all alone. the only connection with the outside world is an old wave based telephone which can work when the power is out (YES, the power goes out in this game)

(out of the topic, objects you pick can be used just in one scripted place, but after you use them they still remain in your inventory. somebody correct me on this if i am wrong please)


The Lost Crown:

Main Character and Premise: you play as Nigel Danvers (yes, the same nigel from dark fall, TLC takes place in the dark fall universe, not sure it it is a prequel or not). you are an ex-employ of Hadden Industries, on the run, after you stole some important files from the boss. you end up in an old Anglo-Saxon town, near the see shore, called Saxton via train. due to the arrival of the flooding season you see yourself stranded in Saxton. Hadden founds and contacts you from outside, and in exchange for his forgiveness you agree to do his business, namely... ghost-hunting.

Presentation and Story: the story unveils over the course of the week spent in this town. building the legend of the 3 lost crowns of anglia. you can explore the whole town and its surroundings during each day, in a semi-linear way. the narrative is linear though, filled with symbolism, and poetic mystery. also the town is full of people with which you can have a dialogue. each character very interesting and very important to the story. it is played from a 3rd person perspective. most of the game is in black and white, and the backgrounds are actually real pictures taken in a real town and edited by mr. Boakes himself i believe. you will find many location to explore in this town. so here it is not a solitary experience. you have to interact with NPCs to solve the mystery.

(NOTE: the game is meant to be the first of three, so the ending is kinda left in the water, but it is also a very nice philosophical one if you take the time to find a deeper sense to it.)


so.. here you have it. whether you prefer the 3 nights in the old victorian house all alone. or the week in the weary town of Saxton ghost-hunting around the town's locals... it is up to you. both games amount to about 10h of gameplay each.

also, neat connection between the two, Jonathan Boakes is "voice-acting" in both.
you will get the quotation marks once you play them. =)

i hope you give them both a chance and i hope this has helped you to put a SOLVE tag on your question.

have a good one! :)
dorian.
Post edited December 06, 2012 by dorianblackberg