I did get a bit of a dragon-y feeling from Soburo. And Yorinobu, definitely. Those sneaky Eastern Dragon metahumans.

15+ hours into Cyberpunk 2077, as of writing, and I've been playing the game as stealth/hacker. I sometimes have to use guns in scripted parts and boss fights. As for the boss fights, turns out I took a different path on a few quests and skipped the very first boss fight (sided with them). Didn't know it was a boss fight till I read up online about it.

I've been playing every night for about 4 nights now. Sure, it's not as deep an RPG as Divinity: Original Sin or Morrowind, but it's more of an RPG than Borderlands or even Witcher 2. Initially, I tried playing it more action-oriented, but it doesn't work that way without properly setting up your character and tweaking them.

Witcher 2 I installed a long time ago, spent 5 hours playing it over a total of 3 days or so, and I just can't get into it. Witcher 2 seems more streamlined even with the 2 different paths that come later.

There's a few things I don't like about CP2077, but its RPG mechanics are not one of them. Overall, I'm enjoying the hell out of it.

In any case, I'm not attempting to invalidade your experience. I'm sharing mine for comparison.

Which is false. Fallout has guns and its an rpg. And I've definitely ran into rpg elements here. Choices, skills, character customization, skill tree and many others.

CDPR should be fully ashamed of the mess that Cyberpunk 2077 is. They deliberely misled both customers and investors solely to cash in. Bugs galore, broken game mechanics, cut content, unfinished, shallow gameplay it just goes on and on. Next gen game my arse. Games from two decades have better AI, game mechanics and replay value.

If I could refund the game I would, CDPR doesn't deserve my $$ after this shit show. Beside the bug laden experience on PC, Cyberpunk 2077 is very far from being an adult RPG, it's simply a juvenile repetitive looter/shooter, too think this studio produced Witcher 3 what an utter disappointment...:(

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Tell it to the people claiming Cyberpunk 2077 is not an RPG

I prefer the world and writing of CP2077 over the Witcher series and actually I am enjoying CP2077 more than even TW3.

I think the issue is that people expected a game with DVOS2 like mechanics, consequences and so on. But DVOS2 is a "top-down" RPG meaning, technically speaking, it's a resource light game. I can only speculate that they would have needed a ton more developers to combine both the mechanics and feeling of a CRPG and the aesthetic of a first person action RPG.

If you want a porn game buy one. Thats not what this is. It is adult in many ways not just the nudity that is still there btw.

Having played both I have to say I disagree with this assessement.
I enjoyed Witcher 1 & 3 much more than 2. 2 felt shallow, watterted down UI/game play, character development that didn't start to shine until the very end of the game when you didn't really get a chance to play with it, and a story that felt like it was a slice of what the other games offer rather than a whole narrative arc.
2 did offer the path choice and that was lovely, but it didn't really carry over anything meaningful from 1 despite how it was presented.
As to the contrast with Cyberpunk, well Cyb has 8 ending states (so far, looks like there are hooks for more that could be added, but that may not happen) of those 8 ending states only 3 are gaurenteed to be open to the player the rest can be missed entirely based on player choice. Granted some are easier to miss than others, and most aren't what I'd call extremely hidden, but there really are no grounds to say player choice doesn't matter in Cyb.
Further, while I admit story is a matter of taste and thus subjective, I'd easily put Cyberpunk 2077 & The Witcher 3 above The Witcher 2 with regards to story. Maybe I baised from reading The Witcher novesl, maybe I'm biased from reading cyberpunk stories for decades, but honestly it just seems like there's a lot more substance and a lot more depth in Cyb compared not only to TW2 but to most AAA "story driven" games of the last several years (take that last with a grain of salt, I don't claim to have played everything, a lot comes out :P ).

In short, TW2 < TW1 < Cyberpunk (current state) < TW3 (finished with all DLC).
But with a games library of approching three thousand, I can say any of the four are easily better than most games out there.
To each their own I guess *shrugs* I have nearly 300 hours in over multiple playthroughs and I'm only pausing my play right now because working full time and going to Uni comebine to take up so much time I can't really play anything much right now.

I'm not on console and I hear that's worse but I haven't really run into bugs beyond some graphical glitches and one or two triggeres that were fixed after a reload. Character customization is better than a lot of games with the RPG lable on them, they actually matter more than in say the Mass Effect series or vinlla Skyrim.

Honestly it sounds like the cyberpunk setting (not Cyberpunk mind, but the cyberpunk story type that came years before it) may just not be yoru cup of tea, which is fine everyone hast their own tastes, but it is what it says on the tin *shrugs*

So much bullshit the past months to sell the suposed "most advanced open world RPG" of the next generati... wait... next generation? I think is more of the past generation, where the product was announced.

With places to hack and take control of elevators, doors, minds to hack and stealing information like passwords, ways to buy my way out trouble with the cops, crazy persecutions inside the city using cars, motorcycles, choose a gang and becoming a marked card to others, a world changing as my choices are made.

The least we all need in this game are romances, imagine any useless porn game.

Fuck, most of this hyperbole is of my own desires.

Here's Johnny!!!!

Reading this thread makes me wonder - what kind of individual truly rates or judges the quality of a game based on its bedroom scenes?

Right? That sounds sort of similar as calling a game "rail shooter" based on a tiny little part of the game from the intro.

Exactly! I played this part:
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It was very linear with no possibility to explore. And they call this an open world game.

It bears no similarity whatsoever.

Because only one of those is judging the game based on an insignificant detail that's barely present in the game, right?

I have to say my entire ending was different that 2 of my other friends.. and it even went into the Witcher 3 on import.. it was phenomenal. Greatest RPG game Ive played in a long long time. Its not open world as much as huge areas to flow though a well crafted branching story... the Story here is the best part, and while the RPG is not like a Bethesda title it is like a witch title where you can focus on a style to play and then enhance that style... i didn't fight all the much and was very chatty, it was great!

It is and forever will be my favorite witcher, it told the best story that remained completely fluid and I honestly saw changes from my choices happening while i played, that was something i have never seen before in a game. True world changes choices that meant something.

Seeing how amazing W2 is and then playing CP2077 broke my heart, it was such a massive downgrade and an utter disappointment seeing just how great of a game they could make if they even tried.

edit: My Witcher 3 run was different then my buds too... my entire run up to Bloody Barron was absolutely different with different dialog, action sequences and outcomes... so they did keep that in W3 but the openness ruins the over all story.... you loose so much in an open world type game unless you are very careful when you build it up... Skyrim does this very well, they keep pulling you into the MQ ever so slightly throughout your play while still allowing complete and total freedom.