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It seems to me that the suicide ending is the best, after all. V dies in all the endings anyways (just in some immediately and in some after 6 months), and in the suicide ending we at least don't take anybode elses lives with us, and we don't fuck up a big part of the world unlike all other endings. Any thoughts?
Post edited December 30, 2020 by nianiania
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The overall message of the game seems to be "don't give up, you always have a chance to make things better!"

But this is a message that rings all the more hollow considering the game we actually got. Things do not get better. They only get worse.
Post edited December 30, 2020 by Kodaemon
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nianiania: It seems to me that the suicide ending is the best, after all. V dies in all the endings anyways (just in some immediately and in some after 6 months), and in the suicide ending we at least don't take anybode elses lives with us, and we don't fuck up a big part of the world unlike all other endings. Any thoughts?
Yea that would be the best ending to be honest.
all endings ends up killing V in 6 months so suicide is the most logical one.


the Reason the game puts forward is weak at most "least killing" the amount of killing V did before suicide would make new york almost deserted

A good reason would have because it's my body (V) reason to suicide if V can't have it Silver cant have it for real.
Post edited December 30, 2020 by Abishia
Perhaps a DLC will bring new life to the end game.

Growing up in a total crappy environment, watching your friends get killed, then meeting an ultimate miserable demise as your only path to "win"


Sounds like real life, not the ending for a fantasy game to escape it.
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mad_crease: Perhaps a DLC will bring new life to the end game.

Growing up in a total crappy environment, watching your friends get killed, then meeting an ultimate miserable demise as your only path to "win"

Sounds like real life, not the ending for a fantasy game to escape it.
A sign of a bad DM is intentionally killing off your PCs, especially after they invested a lot of time and effort into their characters. I haven't played P&P Cyberpunk, so maybe this is different? With that said, I'd still like a more positivie ending, after eveything V goes through.
V dies in all endings? Should I not try to get the best ending?
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jon7882: V dies in all endings?
No. Alt tells him that he will only live 6 more months or so. She could be right or not.
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jon7882: V dies in all endings? Should I not try to get the best ending?
Nothing lasts forever. We all die in the end anyway, like CDPR's reputation did.
I didn't see a reason why V wouldn't find a way to cure the Johnny AIDS and live longer than 6 more months.
Just as well, V could die a week later- Nomad life is kinda rough.
That is cyberpunk in its core. You character is not supposed to be a hero, a powerful and influential person in Night City. And when it happens - you will be punished. Either die or just fall from whatever heights you manage to climb.
That is why I recall many people preferred other RP systems – they were more forgiving and allow for that “escaping sad reality” experience. While CP was just putting you “down where you belong, punk”.
Of course that is just my two cents back from CP2020 days.
Yet remember that CDPR had Mike Pondshmit – author and creator of the CP world - working with them. I’m 100% sure that if they stray too far from what was intended to be considered cyberpunk-ish, he would intervene and correct it.
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R_M_B: remember that CDPR had Mike Pondshmit – author and creator of the CP world - working with them. I’m 100% sure that if they stray too far from what was intended to be considered cyberpunk-ish, he would intervene and correct it.
I do wonder how Mike feels about them pretty much erasing Morgan Blackhand.
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R_M_B: That is cyberpunk in its core. You character is not supposed to be a hero, a powerful and influential person in Night City. And when it happens - you will be punished. Either die or just fall from whatever heights you manage to climb.
That is why I recall many people preferred other RP systems – they were more forgiving and allow for that “escaping sad reality” experience. While CP was just putting you “down where you belong, punk”.
Of course that is just my two cents back from CP2020 days.
Yet remember that CDPR had Mike Pondshmit – author and creator of the CP world - working with them. I’m 100% sure that if they stray too far from what was intended to be considered cyberpunk-ish, he would intervene and correct it.
Didn't know his vision included randomly exploding Cars, falling through the floor and aimlessly cycling Night City NPCs, though.
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TencentInvestor: Didn't know his vision included randomly exploding Cars, falling through the floor and aimlessly cycling Night City NPCs, though.
Now you are mixing up technical deficiency of the game with the vision of the world it tries presents.
I said that hundred times now - yes, game is technically low with bugs and glitches al over the place. But it is also great in presenting how Cyberpunk world would look.
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R_M_B: remember that CDPR had Mike Pondshmit – author and creator of the CP world - working with them. I’m 100% sure that if they stray too far from what was intended to be considered cyberpunk-ish, he would intervene and correct it.
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Kodaemon: I do wonder how Mike feels about them pretty much erasing Morgan Blackhand.
I wish they be generally more generous in communicating about some why's and how's about the lore and world.
It would help CP newbies to understand and pros to stringent their perspective of how it was meant to be seen and understood.

Morgan Blackhand is having some mentions in game. He do not appear directly (or is he?) but I always attributed that to the fact that would be Saburo Arasaka age group now. If he was a vet in 2020 then in 2077 he would be what... more then a 100 years old. It is fine for corp CEO but a solo in retirement age? Not a very good picture to look at...
On a side note, I seen somewhere a spoiler that he may show in end game credits if one play the game in certain way.
Post edited December 31, 2020 by R_M_B
Seems a lot of people seem to forget V's Mantra to be remembered like other legends and V has some memorable endings so V will be a night city legend and going out on top not some nobody, so i see the different endings as means to an end and given the playstyle you preferred all good, me i kind of liked the Rogue ending one and not sure if V shots himself/herself or if the suit is sabotaged.
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Alias117: Seems a lot of people seem to forget V's Mantra to be remembered like other legends and V has some memorable endings so V will be a night city legend and going out on top not some nobody, so i see the different endings as means to an end and given the playstyle you preferred all good, me i kind of liked the Rogue ending one and not sure if V shots himself/herself or if the suit is sabotaged.
not really Silver hand and the game basic claims you get being a legend do to him
the original V is basic nothing and dies a nobody.