So they just shown the new demo and in the character creation there is just "choose your body" kind of thing. Worst part is that they also completely removed classes. Downgrade. And no more third person perspective cutscenes. Downgarde and SJW BS. #Downgrade2077 #CyberPunk2077

Really they got rid of third person perspective cutscenes?

Yes they admited it, also did you saw that Keanu ingame model? Terrible

They downgraded the class system because their devs were too lazy to balance the game properly and with regards to the 2 genders being removed they were too lazy to deal with the resetera retards so they decided to "streamline" that aspect. I think CDPR just fucked themselves for even giving an inch to those degenerates.

Saints Row series did the same "pick your body" thing a decade ago and nobody raised a fucking eyebrow. But now it is totally SJW BS?

And the game was never going to have classes in the explicit sense. The core ruleset had those classes and CP77 implements them, but you were never going to pick "solo" and then be a solo forevermore. Didn't you play any of the Witcher games? Do you remember seeing any choices as to what kind of Witcher you wanted to be? No? Me neither. Your class in this game is V, just like your class in the Witcher games were that of Geralt. What kind of V, then? Well, what kind of Geralt were you?

Finally, few third person cutscenes is a bit weird, but it's okay. CDPR are not morons. There will be options to see what you're looking like but the game is not about staring at your character or being picky about outfits, and if that's what you want then have fun trying to find exactly the right angle in the mirror. I'm not judging. They upgraded the class system to being more about choices and less about getting this class with that skill and those stats because that sort of system inevitably pushes towards power gaming rather than actual role playing. If you're having doubts, do try to play Skyrim and then go back to vanilla Morrowind. Morrowind is a "better" game and RPG but the mechanics are horrendously hard to work with, because they punish players for staying in character.

And they didn't remove any genders. You can still play as a man, unless you specifically need someone to constantly tell you that you are a man, in which case the bearded lady doth protests too much, methinks.

"They upgraded the class system to being more about choices and less about getting this class with that skill and those stats because that sort of system inevitably pushes towards power gaming rather than actual role playing."

Devs got lazy and didn't want to balance the classes so they turned it into fallout 76 shite , so now you don't need a predefined class you just pick whatever. You call it upgrade i call it downgrade.

"If you're having doubts, do try to play Skyrim and then go back to vanilla Morrowind. Morrowind is a "better" game and RPG but the mechanics are horrendously hard to work with, because they punish players for staying in character."

That's what an RPG is , it's supposed to be challenging when you pick a certain class because than you play by the role you picked , with its own strengths and weaknesses.

"And they didn't remove any genders. You can still play as a man, unless you specifically need someone to constantly tell you that you are a man, in which case the bearded lady doth protests too much, methinks."

They pussied out and decided to the appease the alphabet mutants by removing the gender options in the character creator.

You're confusing role playing with D&D min-maxing. A lot of people who grew up on that sort of "role playing" never really grasped the bigger picture. It's not about being restricted to optimizing within a particular set of limitations, it isn't about stat accounting, it's about building a particular character and having some way to understand who that character is what what his abilities are.

And Morrowind was not challenging because of the class restrictions as such, it was challenging because the whole class system forced you to worry about a whole lot of accounting BS that really contributed nothing to the game. To not lose health permanently, you had to boost the endurance stat early, but how did you do that? You had to raise certain skills to get multipliers for that stat, skills that it probably made no sense for your character to worry about. And frankly, consider the absurdity of being an Orc with a minor in athleticism who has to walk around because he doesn't have his x4 multiplier for endurance yet?

The system was relaxed a bit in Bloodmoon, IIRC, but it was still a bit of a mess. The class-free system of Skyrim was dumbed down, but it was much more functional and playable. Now imagine that they'd actually had enough skills and perks, that skill progression had been carefully balanced, and that perks had significant effect on your interactions with the world. Suddenly you can focus on the role play rather than worrying about stat accounting BS.

And that is what CDPR is almost certainly trying to do in CP77. No nonsense where you have to beancount like a maniac or fight a losing battle against the mechanics, just a character system that keeps track of what you can and cannot do and which is tied in well with the game world.

Like I said before in another channel: Everyone was raising eyebrows back then, and many people boycotted the entire Saints Row franchise; some, like myself, even altogether boycotted Volition and subsequently Deep Silver, when they bought of Volition. People being appalled at SJW propaganda and indoctrination really is not anywhere near as new as you seem to think! 1) Having body types instead of sexes (or genders as everyone seems to be erroneously calling them nowadays) is definitely a DOWNgrade; especially if you allow perverse combinations like a male voice-female body or female voice-male body. It's a crime against nature and a sin against God.
2) I did just what you suggested: played Skyrim, got interested in the Elder Scrolls franchise, and then played first Oblivion and then Morrowind. The further back I go, the better the games get! Not just the DnD aspect, but the actual game mechanics.

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Nah, my diet consists solely of flesh. So I'll take a goblet of the blood of an imperialist europhile scandinavian ;)

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Good response, nice try, and thanks for your concern with my health.

Luckily for me though -- and for every other carnivore out there -- as long as you don't eat carbs, meat contains enough vitamin C to keep you healthy -- especially when the meat comes from vegans, who tend to have higher vitamin C levels already -- the tricky part is they also tend to have more HIV/AIDS, so you wanna be careful...

Check out Mikhaila Peterson, if you're interested in learning more about a high meat diet, I think she breaks it down pretty well.

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It was obviously a jab at SJW BS. Because Saint's Raw is freaking satire.

You don't seem to have a very good grasp of the term 'pseudoscience'. Even claims that red meat is supposedly unhealthy are not pseudoscience (not in the term's common use, just in its literal meaning), just bad science with worse interpretation by unscientifically trained media and their sheep.