One of the reasons BG2 is my least favorite Infinity Engine game. Still a great game, but I feel like I need to have a pre-planned script worked out in order to play it, unless I *want* things to be a complete mess. For instance, on my first few visits to the Copper Coronet, I'm *very* careful not to trigger Nalia until I've done the other things I want to get done first. I feel I shouldn't have to do that, as I generally dislike metagaming, but as it stands it's too easy to bump right into 3-4 more side quests (some of them *timed*) while simply trying to finish up *one*.

That, and although I don't really have a problem with the romances themselves, I'd like to see them implemented a little better. It always strikes me as silly to have a love-talk trigger immediately after a battle, as if to say "Oh, CharName, now that we've just slain half-a-dozen trolls, let's talk about our *feelings*!" Ah well, it gives me a chuckle. :)

Spoilers for Mass Effect
The romances in BG2 aren't nearly as stupid as Commander Shepherd murdering ten million Cerberus agents in front of Ashely Graham, and Ashley is still not convinced that he/she isn't a Cerberus spy.
End Spoilers

Such a mod does exist, but the main questlines in Bethesda RPGs are never the good parts of those games so I can understand the sentiment of just wanting to wander through and explore those worlds without the usual RPG "Chosen One" storyline.

However, people actually like the story and writing of Baldur's Gate, so taking that away would probably just turn it into a worse version of Icewind Dale.

And the story revolving around the main character needs "fixing" because...................?

While BG's story is standard fare DnD, it is still functional for the game and doesn't need fixing. Sure, there are aspects of the story I don't like in BG but who really freakin' cares? Games are not movies, the most important thing a game must have is good game play and BG has this in spades.


Or how about this one. I was just about the enter the door where a big bad awaits (I think it was the area before the Dragon is in Watcher's Keep). I buff up my characters, get their gear really, just about to go through the door and Aerie wails "WAHHH!!! My wings fell off and my life sucks!!! Comfort me!!" X-D

Nice to know the dangers right in front of us don't phase you Aerie.......

The story only needs fixing when you remove the main character or make other changes of comparable magnitude (like removing Don Irenicus from BG2). Once you make a change that drastic, only *then* does the story stop making sense (assuming it did make sense in the first place).

With that said, the story of the unmodded game can be said to have issues. I don't like the fact that the only matriarchal society in the game is evil, for example. I also don't like the fact that characters who (according to their character sheet) are good are racist. (Speaking of alignment, apparently some versions of Don Irenicus are Chaotic Good; does his behavior reflect that alignment? (No idea whether it is possible to interact with any of his Chaotic Good incarnations without cheats, however.))

There are a couple issues with the variety of romances in BG2 (non-EE):
1. There are three options if you are playing a male character, but only one if you are playing a female character.
2. There are no same-sex romances available. (I consider it to be an issue when a game allows opposite-sex romance (or marriage) but not same-sex romance (or marriage). I do not consider it an issue if the game doesn't offer romance (or marriage) in the first place.)

Also, have you noticed that every single romance partner is a divine caster?

(Of course, in a no-CHARNAME mod, these romances wouldn't be available. However, they could, say, put in an an Aerie/Haer-Dalis romance or something like that.)

No, seriously, how would you imagine it would work?

You would need new story, new dialogues, new instances and most likely new enemies or at least their motivations.

Plus according to your last post, you would get rid of whole drow city and society to make it more appealing to you?
And remove Keldorn and most likely every other good NPC because they don't like evil races.

Overall you would need to make new game on a whole.


Anyway why does it matter to you at all when you don't like gameplay of it?

No, it seems to be you that has issues with the game because it doesn't conform to SJW politics.

I have been thinking about it randomly, and Actually, it might work. But ofcourse it needs a slightly new story.

Your foster father Gorion dies because of a heart attack and one of the monks accuses you for his death and kicks you out of Candle Keep. While outside, Imoen catches up with you and mentions of Gorion's some old friends in Friendly Arm Inn. Rest of the story is mostly the same. Jaheira and Khalid tells you that they were just about to investigate Naskel mines and you can come along.

Is that version close to what you wanted?


EDIT: Typo

Ashley Williams.
Oh, for fuck sake!

No games need romances. That's what craigslist is for. And if you were truly open-minded you would believe women should have the same opportunities to be evil as men do. Equal alignment for equal actions!

I hate her so much I can't even get her name right.

XD

The drow aren't the only matriarchal society portrayed in the game. Minsc (and Dynaheir if you count BG1) are from Rashemen. According to my big fat information (http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Rashemen), the Rashemi are good aligned people.

We have good characters who are racist because that is how they are brought up. If you were taught all your life that drow are evil, when you see a drow you'll assume he/she is evil.

Also, good characters occasionally do bad things (there's absolutely no reason for Keldorn to attack Viconia - even if you factor in his prejudice), and evil characters occasionally feel a wee bit of guilt. That might account for why Xan and Viconia are affably evil.

You replied to me; are you directing these comments at me?

No. The whole idea behind this is that "you" are not actually a character in the game. Therefore, Gorion isn't your faster father because you don't actually exist as a character in the game.

Imoen, who would be the foster child of Gorion, would basically be going off on her own here.

If you are not a character in a game, you can not play it. You can use Imoen or others but still you will be controlling a party.

That's called a movie.