GR11: I get that Larian goes for a more lighthearted, funny story. And that's fine - as long as they present their deviations from common Forgotten Realms lore in a halfway credible way.

I just came across a 'nice' Illithid in the Underdark. Who literally behaved like a Human who happens to have tentacles. In the middle of a Myconid spore colony. Next to a Hobgoblin who is his best pal.

There have always been funny easter eggs in Baldur's Gate that weren't meant to be taken seriously - like a Goblin with a certain name giving you an autograph etc. But guys - Tieflings are not just 'Humans with horns'. Illithids are not just 'Humans with tentacles'. And Elves are not just 'Humans with pointy ears'.

It would have been very easy to come up with a halfway credible story - maybe one Illithid being expulsed because he dared to question something. And then, he would be hiding somewhere in the Underdark - surely *not* in the middle of a Myconid spore colony. And some Duergar - *not* a Hobgoblin who happens to live in the Underdark - would have known his whereabouts.

All this simply strikes me as sloppy writing. I don't want to be too harsh - Baldur's Gate 3 is, in my humble opinion, still a great game.

But it would have been easy to avoid such pitfalls.

smuggly: I don't know enough about BG to respond about your points but the forum is a good place to put this and from the looks of the forums your not alone in this.

GR11: But it would have been easy to avoid such pitfalls.

J Lo: The nice illithid we get in BG3 isn't any more unrealistic than the nice beholder we get in BG2. The underdark is a nightmarish realm - and has more in common with the outer planes than the prime material. It's rare for members of the factions there to defect (probably because they aren't even aware it's an option), but it's really not that strange.

Sadism is getting joy from the pain of others just because you can, even if there is no purpose behind it. I've never seen mind flayers portrayed this way in any type of media. For the sake of full disclosure, I have to admit I haven't read/seen/played every D&D thing out there. From what I've seen they're cold, mechanical, and calculating in their methods. Everything has a purpose. Even if they did secretly revel in the pain of others, they probably wouldn't do it. Their society relies on thralls for scouts and meat shields, and you won't get much mileage out of damaged toy soldiers. Sadism is more prominent in drow, duergar, and derro cultures.

osm: ....

Engerek01: ~Bows~ Finally someone who knows what they are talking about.Engerek01: Another person who has no idea what they are talking about.

BG3 currently does not have a char generator as you put it. There is only a handful of selections you can choose from.

Do you think that brain-on-legs is trademark Larian? You don't know what it is, do you?

You clearly haven't even played the game yet, which renders all your comment completely speculative hence useless.

Like I've said in other topics, the biggest problem of BG3 is people who haven't even played the games, yet feel the right to criticize with their incredibly limited knowledge. Still, the game is amazing and the user reviews (from those who actually own and played the game) are very positive.

J Lo: The nice illithid we get in BG3 isn't any more unrealistic than the nice beholder we get in BG2. The underdark is a nightmarish realm - and has more in common with the outer planes than the prime material. It's rare for members of the factions there to defect (probably because they aren't even aware it's an option), but it's really not that strange.

Engerek01: Do you realize how racist your vision is? If the things you said were true, we wouldn't have amazing characters like Viconia or Drizzt.

osm: have you mentioned little evil shifty talking brain-on-legs? Trademark Larian (or at least Larian's DOS, haven't played their earlier Divinity titles).

osm: They even have two chars end up on a desolate beach after that ridiculously (but not for Larian!) over-the-top, in-your-face, artificially repulsive bruckhimery action movie style intro sequence (ideal for a Netflix bargain bin).
Not sure if they're physically unable to NOT do a DOS or just trolling their customers.

GR11: You can do something like that and yes, I am aware that this is almost exactly the same as the ship sinking in DOS 2.

GR11: Please take your racial hatred elsewhere. We just had several killings in Europe and I am really fed up with leftists trying to stir up hatred against Western countries, ludicrous books and RPGs.