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It's a very lovely game, and it runs smoothly, but I don't think I've ever seen so much screen tearing in one game.
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OlausPetrus: My point was that you described AMFP like it's the worst game published this year, which it isn't and it gave wrong impression to people about the game.
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dyscode: That's rather debateable. For me it is among the worst games this year and I am not entirely alone with that opinion. But venting my anger about it already cost me more time than it is worth. So i go play some nice horror game instead again, like Home, Soundless Mountain or Lone Survivor.

PS: But yes of course, hopefully with all the good reviews and the objections to them an interested buyer can hopefully research a buying decision that works for them.
At some level I understand your frustration and I hope that you can get over it. My most recent disappointment was with Secret Files 3 (aka. Geheimakte 3), because I had expected more and pre-ordered it. Once I got over my disappointment, I realized that it's not as bad game as I first thought, although it's not very good game either. Still the main reason I dislike it is because it wasn't what I wanted it to be, someone with other expectations can probably enjoy it more than I did.
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dyscode: That's rather debateable. For me it is among the worst games this year and I am not entirely alone with that opinion. But venting my anger about it already cost me more time than it is worth. So i go play some nice horror game instead again, like Home, Soundless Mountain or Lone Survivor.

PS: But yes of course, hopefully with all the good reviews and the objections to them an interested buyer can hopefully research a buying decision that works for them.
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OlausPetrus: At some level I understand your frustration and I hope that you can get over it. My most recent disappointment was with Secret Files 3 (aka. Geheimakte 3), because I had expected more and pre-ordered it. Once I got over my disappointment, I realized that it's not as bad game as I first thought, although it's not very good game either. Still the main reason I dislike it is because it wasn't what I wanted it to be, someone with other expectations can probably enjoy it more than I did.
thanks. I mean it.
I'm also having a hard time distinguishing between reactions by people who were genuinely disappointed with the game, and people who simply have it out for Chinese Room for the wonderful Dear Esther. I'm probably going to automatically censor any reviews I come across that mentioned DE, since nine out of ten they were one of those folks who made a big stink about its unique style when it came out.
Post edited September 13, 2013 by Westenra
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Westenra: I'm also having a hard time distinguishing between reactions by people who were genuinely disappointed with the game, and people who simply have it out for Chinese Room for the wonderful Dear Esther. I'm probably going to automatically censor any reviews I come across that mentioned DE, since nine out of ten they were one of those folks who made a big stink about its unique style when it came out.
Don't you think it's a bit unfair? I mean it's only natural to compare the works of an artist to their previous achievements, and expecially in reviews that gives the reader a point of reference. So one would expect A Machine For Pigs to be compared in reviews to Penumbra, and especially to The Dark Descent, so why shouldn't it be compared to Dear Esther since both Frictional and The Chinese Room took part in creating the game.

I understand that building the whole argument on "This is Dear Esther so it's bad because I didn't like Dear Esther" is not worthy of attention, but there have been some genuinely interesting discussions about what does constitute a game surrounding Dear Esther for example. So just to outright dismiss some views just because they have the audacity to mention DE? Sounds as unreasonable as dismissing AMFP outright just because there is resemblance to DE.
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Westenra: I'm also having a hard time distinguishing between reactions by people who were genuinely disappointed with the game, and people who simply have it out for Chinese Room for the wonderful Dear Esther. I'm probably going to automatically censor any reviews I come across that mentioned DE, since nine out of ten they were one of those folks who made a big stink about its unique style when it came out.
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VoodooEconomist: Don't you think it's a bit unfair? I mean it's only natural to compare the works of an artist to their previous achievements, and expecially in reviews that gives the reader a point of reference. So one would expect A Machine For Pigs to be compared in reviews to Penumbra, and especially to The Dark Descent, so why shouldn't it be compared to Dear Esther since both Frictional and The Chinese Room took part in creating the game.

I understand that building the whole argument on "This is Dear Esther so it's bad because I didn't like Dear Esther" is not worthy of attention, but there have been some genuinely interesting discussions about what does constitute a game surrounding Dear Esther for example. So just to outright dismiss some views just because they have the audacity to mention DE? Sounds as unreasonable as dismissing AMFP outright just because there is resemblance to DE.
nicely put together!

(and just to reiterate myself: Dear Esther was a fine interactive experience but the brought over game mechanics fail an Amnesia-style game almost entirely for me).
Hi there!
May I ask if with the game is included also a serial number? I would like to redeem the game on Steam as done with Unepic.
Thanks!
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Max_R: Hi there!
May I ask if with the game is included also a serial number? I would like to redeem the game on Steam as done with Unepic.
Thanks!
Most games on GOG don't have serial numbers attached. And most games with serial numbers can't be redeemed on Steam. Unepic apparently is one of the very rare ones that fit in both categories, but AAMFP is not.
Thank you for the answer: I'll wait for the humble indie bundle again
If it is available DRM free on GOG, why do you need it on STEAM?
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nightrunner227: Unepic apparently is one of the very rare ones that fit in both categories, but AAMFP is not.
Actually, no. The developer used to provide Steam keys to those who bought the game on GOG. GOG does not and will not give out Steam keys.
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Westenra: I'm also having a hard time distinguishing between reactions by people who were genuinely disappointed with the game, and people who simply have it out for Chinese Room for the wonderful Dear Esther. I'm probably going to automatically censor any reviews I come across that mentioned DE, since nine out of ten they were one of those folks who made a big stink about its unique style when it came out.
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VoodooEconomist: Don't you think it's a bit unfair? I mean it's only natural to compare the works of an artist to their previous achievements, and expecially in reviews that gives the reader a point of reference. So one would expect A Machine For Pigs to be compared in reviews to Penumbra, and especially to The Dark Descent, so why shouldn't it be compared to Dear Esther since both Frictional and The Chinese Room took part in creating the game.

I understand that building the whole argument on "This is Dear Esther so it's bad because I didn't like Dear Esther" is not worthy of attention, but there have been some genuinely interesting discussions about what does constitute a game surrounding Dear Esther for example. So just to outright dismiss some views just because they have the audacity to mention DE? Sounds as unreasonable as dismissing AMFP outright just because there is resemblance to DE.
I see what you are saying but I respectfully disagree. It is irrelevant to compare an artist's current piece to their previous work, even though people love to do it, just as it is irrelevant to compare A Machine For Pigs to Dear Esther and to a lesser extent, The Dark Descent. This may come as a surprise, but they are separate games! Yet the biggest complaint I'm reading is, "they took out most of the mechanics from Dark Descent". Okay, but how do you feel about the game? It's not trying to be Dark Descent, it's A Machine For Pigs. It's not Dear Esther, it's A Machine For Pigs.

There is a pattern of mentality in reviewing games I've observed by users on this site: Cynicism. If they get a whiff of a negative impression in their experience while playing, they let it grow in their mind and turn their perception into a cascade of negativity, blotting out most of the positive aspects. Similarly, even if they enjoy the game immensely, rather than giving a few negatives the benefit of the doubt they will go out of their way to considerably lower the score over fairly petty nonsense.

Some of the highest voted reviews for the best games are full of "It's good, but..." If a game's strengths outweigh its weaknesses then it crosses a threshold that makes those negatives irrelevant, and it should be recommended fully with little criticism beyond, "it has a few quirks".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOjkwz3H3xY

Here it is ;) forgot to post it here, if you guys wonder how it is, i LOVE IT, it's scary as fuck tho.
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Westenra: It's not trying to be Dark Descent, it's A Machine For Pigs. It's not Dear Esther, it's A Machine For Pigs.
But it IS an Amnesia game. And with a name like "Amnesia," people have certain expectations about the next game in a series that's like the previous game, priced like the previous game, and looks like the previous game, even with the addition of new developers.
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Westenra: It's not trying to be Dark Descent, it's A Machine For Pigs. It's not Dear Esther, it's A Machine For Pigs.
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Nettacki01: But it IS an Amnesia game. And with a name like "Amnesia," people have certain expectations about the next game in a series that's like the previous game, priced like the previous game, and looks like the previous game, even with the addition of new developers.
Their mistake.

I prefer to go into a new game with no preconceptions and appreciate it for what it is :D

But to each their own, I suppose.