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I'm here because I'm excited about the game. If I wasn't I'd be spending my leisure time doing something else.

Will someone please explain to me the point of wasting my time deriding a product I'm not happy with instead of enjoying my life? What am I missing? There are plenty of entertainment options out there.
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Brashen: I'm here because I'm excited about the game. If I wasn't I'd be spending my leisure time doing something else.

Will someone please explain to me the point of wasting my time deriding a product I'm not happy with instead of enjoying my life? What am I missing? There are plenty of entertainment options out there.
The point is to show that you aren't supportive of the idea to limit technological progress due to market constraints. The game was held back in glory to accommodate the weaker nature of the consoles. If you are content with that then just sit by idly and consume what is available without regard for true progress.
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Brashen: I'm here because I'm excited about the game. If I wasn't I'd be spending my leisure time doing something else.

Will someone please explain to me the point of wasting my time deriding a product I'm not happy with instead of enjoying my life? What am I missing? There are plenty of entertainment options out there.
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baloniman: The point is to show that you aren't supportive of the idea to limit technological progress due to market constraints. The game was held back in glory to accommodate the weaker nature of the consoles. If you are content with that then just sit by idly and consume what is available without regard for true progress.
ROFL

So your complaints are your contribution to 'technological progress'? Do you really tell yourself that?
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baloniman: The point is to show that you aren't supportive of the idea to limit technological progress due to market constraints. The game was held back in glory to accommodate the weaker nature of the consoles. If you are content with that then just sit by idly and consume what is available without regard for true progress.
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Brashen: ROFL

So your complaints are your contribution to 'technological progress'? Do you really tell yourself that?
Sure do! Complacency only breeds stagnation
Post edited May 17, 2015 by baloniman
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Brashen: I'm here because I'm excited about the game. If I wasn't I'd be spending my leisure time doing something else.

Will someone please explain to me the point of wasting my time deriding a product I'm not happy with instead of enjoying my life? What am I missing? There are plenty of entertainment options out there.
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baloniman: The point is to show that you aren't supportive of the idea to limit technological progress due to market constraints. The game was held back in glory to accommodate the weaker nature of the consoles. If you are content with that then just sit by idly and consume what is available without regard for true progress.
That's how things work. You basically have two ways, do it yourself or pay someone to do it for you. I'm pretty sure if you could offer CDPR more than MS and Sony, they [CDPR] would've done for you a candy and left consoles far behind. We know they can do it just by watching 2013 trailer. Or you could do it with your own team, but again you must offer them something. You know these humans, they have this annoying need to sustain their energy level by eating and drinking.

Just complaining won't get you anywhere. Life is a zero-sum game, you know.
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baloniman: The point is to show that you aren't supportive of the idea to limit technological progress due to market constraints. The game was held back in glory to accommodate the weaker nature of the consoles. If you are content with that then just sit by idly and consume what is available without regard for true progress.
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green.anger: That's how things work. You basically have two ways, do it yourself or pay someone to do it for you. I'm pretty sure if you could offer CDPR more than MS and Sony, they [CDPR] would've done for you a candy and left consoles far behind. We know they can do it just by watching 2013 trailer. Or you could do it with your own team, but again you must offer them something. You know these humans, they have this annoying need to sustain their energy level by eating and drinking.

Just complaining won't get you anywhere. Life is a zero-sum game, you know.
Money talks no doubt. This concept is actually a big part of the problem here. I'm sure the developers were offered more from MS to use that as the benchmark due to the fact the Xbox is weaker than the PS4. So really what has happened here is money has ensured the downgrade in visuals due to commitments to the consoles.

it may seem like I am complaining but I'm not demanding anything from them I've actually stated multiple times I'm still very much looking forward to the game although it is worth pointing out the truth of how things happen behind the scenes in this industry. Developers are constrained into specific markets to ensure they get the sales to continue operation. As a result of this compromises are made and its an endless cycle of slowed progress.

Talking and sharing information is a way to implement change so I do believe people are feeling the same way the thread is progressing.
who cares about a downgrade even if this has happened. The game is going to be awesome no matter what!!!

Look at watchdogs and the gimp fest that was at release!!
Post edited May 17, 2015 by madasahat
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baloniman: The point is to show that you aren't supportive of the idea to limit technological progress due to market constraints. The game was held back in glory to accommodate the weaker nature of the consoles. If you are content with that then just sit by idly and consume what is available without regard for true progress.
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green.anger: That's how things work. You basically have two ways, do it yourself or pay someone to do it for you. I'm pretty sure if you could offer CDPR more than MS and Sony, they [CDPR] would've done for you a candy and left consoles far behind. We know they can do it just by watching 2013 trailer. Or you could do it with your own team, but again you must offer them something. You know these humans, they have this annoying need to sustain their energy level by eating and drinking.

Just complaining won't get you anywhere. Life is a zero-sum game, you know.
The thing is they mislead the PC folks. Many of us (including me) built a new PC specifically for the Witcher 3. Now it looks like I didn't even have a need to do that.

Also people saying "videos don't count as proof cuz compression," seriously? They provide enough proof that you can see a notable downgrade. Get your head out of CD Projekt's asses, and quit denying the truth. I love CD Projekt too, but I'm not going to be their white knight when they lie.
Post edited May 17, 2015 by Beligerent
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Brashen: I'm here because I'm excited about the game. If I wasn't I'd be spending my leisure time doing something else.

Will someone please explain to me the point of wasting my time deriding a product I'm not happy with instead of enjoying my life? What am I missing? There are plenty of entertainment options out there.
Because those who are upset with cdprojekts direction care about what had happened. They're are frustrated with what was expected and what is going to be released.
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green.anger: That's how things work. You basically have two ways, do it yourself or pay someone to do it for you. I'm pretty sure if you could offer CDPR more than MS and Sony, they [CDPR] would've done for you a candy and left consoles far behind. We know they can do it just by watching 2013 trailer. Or you could do it with your own team, but again you must offer them something. You know these humans, they have this annoying need to sustain their energy level by eating and drinking.

Just complaining won't get you anywhere. Life is a zero-sum game, you know.
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Beligerent: The thing is they mislead the PC folks. Many of us (including me) built a new PC specifically for the Witcher 3. Now it looks like I didn't even have a need to do that.

Also people saying "videos don't count as proof cuz compression," seriously? They provide enough proof that you can see a notable downgrade. Get your head out of CD Projekt's asses, and quit denying the truth. I love CD Projekt too, but I'm not going to be their white knight when they lie.
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/The-Witcher-3-PC-237266/Specials/The-Witcher-3-Screenshots-1159185/

If you tell me that this looks like the crappy graphics of the PS4 version then you really need some eye-intervention mate :)
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Beligerent: The thing is they mislead the PC folks. Many of us (including me) built a new PC specifically for the Witcher 3. Now it looks like I didn't even have a need to do that.
In case you're going to use GameWorks, you'll need all power of your new rig. You know, you could test it with and without GW on your new PC, and then share the results with us. I have only gtx770, it's not likely I'd be able to test it.
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madasahat: who cares about a downgrade even if this has happened. The game is going to be awesome no matter what!!!

Look at watchdogs and the gimp fest that was at release!!
For some like myself I do care about it. Reason I was interested in the game was the early videos. If the downgrade is real and I loss those features I didn't get what I invested in. Its false advertising. I never said the game would be worse or it will suck with the downgrade. I wanted a PC game. Not a console port. Sorry cross platform. Sure I'll enjoy the other qualities of the game but it won't have that feel I had when I saw the promotions 2 years ago. I just hope its all rumors.
What? But it looks awesome!! It's a shame my rig is not ready for this.
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green.anger: What? But it looks awesome!! It's a shame my rig is not ready for this.
I thought exactly the same! And apparently this it what you get with a R9 290X, so perhaps you could have pretty similar results with your own rig ;)
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green.anger: What? But it looks awesome!! It's a shame my rig is not ready for this.
Same setup as my own, R9 290X with a 27'' Dell US; not that I doubted for a second that it will look amazing.