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So we're complaining about what we haven't even seen yet, other than youtube videos.

Please let me know when you make the game that CDPR should have made. I'll check it out and if it looks good I'll buy it.

Better yet, get a crowd funding campaign going. I'm sure with all your great ideas, people will line right up behind you.
Post edited May 16, 2015 by Brashen
The gameplay in the youtube link looks very poor. Therefore I feel it is not an official version and should not be considered representative.

But all the more reason for the developers to finally release the gameplay 1.01 patch for PC so that we can look for ourselves!!!
Right talking about hardware limitations is now some how complaing, get over your self mate.

Facts are facts PS4 and XONE graphics are worse then 4 year old high end GPUs, the game was started before those limitations were known.
Post edited May 16, 2015 by VikingDream
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VikingDream: @green.anger

The IGN live stream was the PC version all the setting were max apart from AA at medium and light shafts was off, they kept hair works off because it kills FPS.

Now I wasn't that impressed with how the game looked, and if found it very hard to tell the difference between that and the PS4 footage.

My GPU is from 2011 and the PS4 when ever it came out was out dated the PS4 is 30% slower then my GPU from 2011...the Xbox One is even weaker then that.

The whole thing is CDPR built the game with the weakest platform as the benchmark, they have one build for all 3 platforms it has to work on the weakest one there's no 2 ways about it.

If it had been built for PC like say the witcher 2 for example, the console versions had to be cut down to be able to run on Xbox and PS3 because they couldn't handle the graphics and I can't see why that wasn't done again.

Nitpicking about what year I said the PS 4 came out really doesn't matter the fact it came out a year later then I thought actually makes it worse as it was 2 years newer then my GPU and still slower.

Still think they should have gone all witcher 2 on the game and made the console users have a cut down version but some people are still insisting that the PC version looks 10x better I just haven't seen it maybe because i'm looked at 1080pvs 1080p and not 1080p(console) vs 4k(PC).
True enough, but I don't get why people is still complaining. The game looks awesome, and I'm pretty sure that next year the devs will release the Enhanced Edition, with better graphics and all that stuff.
1st of all in both ign live sesions AA was off hairworks was off physx was off maybe even i saw ambient occlusion was not maxed out . when the game is out and someone can run it in 1080p 60 fps absolute max settings edit in xml file with all those 2048 textures and shit to max then we will see who was right about the downgrade. even in that ign video when they showed settings u could see alot of things OFF that make the game look better by some acounts. my msg to all who feel cheated is still the same cancel ur preorder and go cry in the corner while the rest of us enjoy the game in peace.
Wow OP that is the best comparison I've seen. There is a very noticeable difference from the 2013 trailer. You cannot deny how much better it looks than the release build of the game.

That said the Witcher 3 does look great even now they've done an excellent job accommodating it to run on all 3 platforms. The PC build will have more customization options to make it look quite a bit better than consoles plus you won't be locked to 30FPS. The game will still be an excellent time although I feel a bit disappointed Geralt's last adventure was held back in visual glory by reasons of market rather than of technology.

What will always be limiting to the consoles in terms of graphics fidelity is the rendering pipeline is fixed. This slows down the progress of the capabilities of current technology. PC's on the other hand are modular and the changing of a GPU your able to adapt to the newest rendering techniques. Now for a game developer who wants to continue to make games you need to make sure that as many people can play the game. Unfortunately for developers who want to push the limits of technology a large section of the market is still focusing on consoles and they have to limit themselves to whatever that generation of consoles rendering hardware can handle.

There is another option and would require investment of significant resources and then overshadow the consoles capabilities. I think it would've been worth it that's what I thought CD Projekt was all about... not compromise but pushing boundaries. I think the Witcher 3 could've been the best looking game ever made till now if not for the pressures of market and general success. Maybe it still is but even they must know it was much more glorious
in the 2013 reveal. Anyway I'm still pumped for May 19!
I don't think any one is crying after all "it's only game why heff to be mad?" AA was off, Light shafts was off, Hair works was off, AO was at medium in the IGN feeds i think everything else was at max.

Those layers might make it look a little better but the fact is there is one game build used for all 3 platforms, unlike the witcher 2 which had the PC as lead platform the Xbox must have been lead as it's the weakest graphically in temrs of hardware.

The Witcher 2 had to cut down to even run on console while the witcher 3 runs on them right off the bat, the main thing i see as the problem is the game was started before the limitations of those consoles was know.

It's game devolpment plane and simple you have to adapt I think had they known the limitations of those consoles before had we might have seen some very different early footage.
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VikingDream: My GPU is from 2011 and the PS4 when ever it came out was out dated the PS4 is 30% slower then my GPU from 2011...the Xbox One is even weaker then that.
Consoles always had weaker GPU, no surprise here. But to be honest current pace of PC GPU progress is somewhat dubious. I have gtx 770 and thought I'd probably need an upgrade to tun TW3 smoothly. I was really surprised knowing that my 770 is somewhere in between 960 and 970 in terms of performance. Many years has passed and this is what we have, is that what they call progress?

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VikingDream: Nitpicking about what year I said the PS 4 came out really doesn't matter the fact it came out a year later then I thought actually makes it worse as it was 2 years newer then my GPU and still slower.
Nah, I wasn't nitpicking, just thought you'd like a concept of time traveling )) Didn't work, next time I'll think about something more plausible.
I am not too worried. I was before, but it's clear a lot of footage and comparisons has been done with incomplete data or intentionally misrepresented data. I'll be the first to carry a torch for the funeral pyre if the game sucks on May 19, but everything I've seen so far actually points to the game being awesome on PC. With great graphics!
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green.anger: Nah, I wasn't nitpicking, just thought you'd like a concept of time traveling )) Didn't work, next time I'll think about something more plausible.
Do you know of a place i can get some Doc P i need some Doc P i used my phone wave to send myself a text from the future ;) If this is the will of Steins Gate....El psy congaroo

Hmm GPU advances haven't been that great if i'm being honest take the GX 580 it out performs the 780 in some area's and it only when you get to the 780 Ti does it out perform the 580 in ALL areas...that to me is pretty bad gains for the costs you have paid going from say a 580,680 to a 780 sure you got more VRAM as a given but the real term gains would have been marginal at best.

It's only now that 9xx's support DX 12 would it seam like GPUS have made larger jump but then look at the 970 and 980 the 970 is reported to be 12-15% weaker and is half the price ...that to me sounds like a nickle and dime situation. double the price for 15% gain is not value for money lol.
Post edited May 16, 2015 by VikingDream
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VikingDream: I don't think any one is crying after all "it's only game why heff to be mad?" AA was off, Light shafts was off, Hair works was off, AO was at medium in the IGN feeds i think everything else was at max.

Those layers might make it look a little better but the fact is there is one game build used for all 3 platforms, unlike the witcher 2 which had the PC as lead platform the Xbox must have been lead as it's the weakest graphically in temrs of hardware.

The Witcher 2 had to cut down to even run on console while the witcher 3 runs on them right off the bat, the main thing i see as the problem is the game was started before the limitations of those consoles was know.

It's game devolpment plane and simple you have to adapt I think had they known the limitations of those consoles before had we might have seen some very different early footage.
i cant be in denial and say that one base wasnt used for all 3 platforms but if u look at this video more closely u can see that AA was OFF,HairWorks was OFF,they said Physx was OFF,AO was only the crapy SSAO,Sharpening was OFF,Chromatic Aberration(what ever the fuck it is) was OFF https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pU70-e0XHxw and if u saw the xml file there was a lot of things there that can be maxed to crazy lvls,so yeah im staying optimistic that this game at max will look more brutal on pc than on PS4 not even mentioning 1440p,2K,3K and 4K just coz of res limit on PS4
Just look at this and say there is no reduction. forums.guru3d.com/showpost.php?p=5069040&postcount=2003
I think all early promos should be in 8-bit graphics. That way the end product can be seen as an upgrade as opposed to downgrade.

I'm sure that would have generated just as much buzz and interest, given that gameplay is more important anyway.

The level of entitlement is nauseating. CDPR lied to you because the original level of graphics they were reaching for turned out to be constrained by hardware limitations. Oh, here's another one, I'll beat you to it. Their program must be terribly un-optimized for pc!

And all of this speculation revolving around compressed youtube videos. Absolutely astounding.
Post edited May 16, 2015 by Brashen
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heavyflame: Just look at this and say there is no reduction. forums.guru3d.com/showpost.php?p=5069040&postcount=2003
That post in particular is worth nothing, because the last picture is from the PS4. Says nothing about current state of PC version.
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heavyflame: Just look at this and say there is no reduction. forums.guru3d.com/showpost.php?p=5069040&postcount=2003
come on man the 1st one is in game footage and the others are gameplay seriously no one forced us to buy the game in the 1st place they said w8 for the reviews and then buy if u like no one put a gun to ur head and made u belive it and buy it