Posted June 07, 2011
EAKendalP: How can you say that the game is too Easy?
I started playing at Hard and made it through to Chapter 1. Then when I tried to do a quest called "Malena", where you are to go into a cave and see what happend to 2 guards, I just flipped out how impossible it is. I died like 15 times and I even swaped to Normal difficulty and still died.
In the cave you will gett attacked by about 15-20 Nekkers at once and it is inpossible almost.
1: if you try to focus down 1 of them then all of the others will run you over and you die in 1 sec.
2: if you gett hit in the back from one of the bigger once (Nekker warriors) then you will die instantly sinc you take backstap damage of +200 % if not more.
3: You don't have time to place a Trap or Sign sinc they catches up to you and kill you since you stand still,
Now I managed to kill them all after I had done some other quests in between but I'd say it was more becaus of luck. The luck that they sepperated 1 and 1 after I ran around abit and the luck that more then 1-3 ran into my explosive trap.
However this isn't the big thing I'll whine about.
I just did the Endrega Contract quest where you are too destroy 3 coccones to spawn an Endrega Queen. And you have to kill 2 Queens.
The first one was Hard, I died maby 3-5 times but there was a bugg sort of that when I went into an area the Queen thought I was gone and didn't engage me untill I ran out of it. So I killed her after some time.
However the second one was impossible. I died maby 30 times. First of all I was now playing on Normal since Hard was close to impossible since I died on 1 hitts several times. But the differance isn't in the Damage and I will come to that.
So the tactics for the queen is to Use the Yrden sign to slow here down and then attack as many times you can untill she blocks then you roll away since she will attak you quickly after.
Now this happend to me several times:
1: I attack her after she walks over my Yrden trap untill she blocks. But when she blocks I can't roll away when I want to since I'm in the middle of an swing or somthing so my roll comes to late and I gett hittet and taking 100+ damage and chanse of poison.
2: The Queen blocks and attack at the same time making it impossible to evade it.
3: I engage the queen after she hase walked on my Yrden trap. Durring my attacks Geralt stops attacking for 1.5 sec and runs in the air even if I keep spaming the Mouse. Within this 1.5 sec of non pressure on the queen she attacks me and I take 100+ damage with the chanse of Poison or bleed.
Number 2 and 3 are probubly buggs witch are realy annoying. Nr3 is probubly that Geralt thinks the opponent is far away and has to run to it but when the targget is actioly right in fron of him.
The 1'st problem is just an realy annoying flaw in the game. Parrying and Dodging commands ist prio in the game. If I'm in the start or the middle of an atack swing then Pressing "E" for Parry or "Space" and Direction for Doge wont happen untill he is finished with his attak. This is realy annoying since this has gotten me kille several times. I am about to attak an enemy when I see another one going for an attack on me but I can't block it even if I'm spamming E since I'm in the middle of an attack therfor I gett damaged.
I finally gave up on the Queen and swaped to easy mode where I killed her within a minute since in Easy mode she doesn't block... So boring.
I don't want to be able to glace though the game with eas I wnat an challange but not an impossability.
Parrying/blocking command and Dodge command should be priotaty 1 over any attack and therby interupting any swing in motion to do ither of them.
And another thing is that it is impossible to fight mor ethen 1-2 ebemys at the same time.
At this moment I have died 2 times now from an Nekker Ambush where I gett overrun by 6-8 nekkers and they don't leav me even if I run far away. and I can't kill them for the same reasons I explained in the start.
1: If I attack 1 then 3 attack me.
2: If I gett hit in the back I die alsmost instant
3: I i try to use Quen sign then 3 jumps on me at destroys the sheild instant
4: If I try to place and Yrden Trap on the ground then I gett over run by 4 and die.
So This Game is by far not Easy unless you play on Easy.'
If I am wrong in any of what I am saying then please tell me what I am doing wrong since I have bin trying to find fighting tuturials online but there arn none but 1 fighting vido posed by CDprohect. And in that fighting video he runs around picking them one by one and using aloot of signs. However all off his signs ar at full lvl since they effect more then 1 and are mutch stronger. And in non of them is he over run by 10 Nekkers who are Fast as hell and go clustered in a group. Human enemys are easy but mosnters like Nekkers are impossible when in group.
twistedmelon5: The queens are actually pretty easy to defeat, even on hard/insane, actually the game is relatively easy all together. I started playing at Hard and made it through to Chapter 1. Then when I tried to do a quest called "Malena", where you are to go into a cave and see what happend to 2 guards, I just flipped out how impossible it is. I died like 15 times and I even swaped to Normal difficulty and still died.
In the cave you will gett attacked by about 15-20 Nekkers at once and it is inpossible almost.
1: if you try to focus down 1 of them then all of the others will run you over and you die in 1 sec.
2: if you gett hit in the back from one of the bigger once (Nekker warriors) then you will die instantly sinc you take backstap damage of +200 % if not more.
3: You don't have time to place a Trap or Sign sinc they catches up to you and kill you since you stand still,
Now I managed to kill them all after I had done some other quests in between but I'd say it was more becaus of luck. The luck that they sepperated 1 and 1 after I ran around abit and the luck that more then 1-3 ran into my explosive trap.
However this isn't the big thing I'll whine about.
I just did the Endrega Contract quest where you are too destroy 3 coccones to spawn an Endrega Queen. And you have to kill 2 Queens.
The first one was Hard, I died maby 3-5 times but there was a bugg sort of that when I went into an area the Queen thought I was gone and didn't engage me untill I ran out of it. So I killed her after some time.
However the second one was impossible. I died maby 30 times. First of all I was now playing on Normal since Hard was close to impossible since I died on 1 hitts several times. But the differance isn't in the Damage and I will come to that.
So the tactics for the queen is to Use the Yrden sign to slow here down and then attack as many times you can untill she blocks then you roll away since she will attak you quickly after.
Now this happend to me several times:
1: I attack her after she walks over my Yrden trap untill she blocks. But when she blocks I can't roll away when I want to since I'm in the middle of an swing or somthing so my roll comes to late and I gett hittet and taking 100+ damage and chanse of poison.
2: The Queen blocks and attack at the same time making it impossible to evade it.
3: I engage the queen after she hase walked on my Yrden trap. Durring my attacks Geralt stops attacking for 1.5 sec and runs in the air even if I keep spaming the Mouse. Within this 1.5 sec of non pressure on the queen she attacks me and I take 100+ damage with the chanse of Poison or bleed.
Number 2 and 3 are probubly buggs witch are realy annoying. Nr3 is probubly that Geralt thinks the opponent is far away and has to run to it but when the targget is actioly right in fron of him.
The 1'st problem is just an realy annoying flaw in the game. Parrying and Dodging commands ist prio in the game. If I'm in the start or the middle of an atack swing then Pressing "E" for Parry or "Space" and Direction for Doge wont happen untill he is finished with his attak. This is realy annoying since this has gotten me kille several times. I am about to attak an enemy when I see another one going for an attack on me but I can't block it even if I'm spamming E since I'm in the middle of an attack therfor I gett damaged.
I finally gave up on the Queen and swaped to easy mode where I killed her within a minute since in Easy mode she doesn't block... So boring.
I don't want to be able to glace though the game with eas I wnat an challange but not an impossability.
Parrying/blocking command and Dodge command should be priotaty 1 over any attack and therby interupting any swing in motion to do ither of them.
And another thing is that it is impossible to fight mor ethen 1-2 ebemys at the same time.
At this moment I have died 2 times now from an Nekker Ambush where I gett overrun by 6-8 nekkers and they don't leav me even if I run far away. and I can't kill them for the same reasons I explained in the start.
1: If I attack 1 then 3 attack me.
2: If I gett hit in the back I die alsmost instant
3: I i try to use Quen sign then 3 jumps on me at destroys the sheild instant
4: If I try to place and Yrden Trap on the ground then I gett over run by 4 and die.
So This Game is by far not Easy unless you play on Easy.'
If I am wrong in any of what I am saying then please tell me what I am doing wrong since I have bin trying to find fighting tuturials online but there arn none but 1 fighting vido posed by CDprohect. And in that fighting video he runs around picking them one by one and using aloot of signs. However all off his signs ar at full lvl since they effect more then 1 and are mutch stronger. And in non of them is he over run by 10 Nekkers who are Fast as hell and go clustered in a group. Human enemys are easy but mosnters like Nekkers are impossible when in group.
But as for the queens there are two ways to go about it (or at least two ways I tried with relative ease on hard/insane mind you)
1. Use the Yrden sign to stun her, whilst she is stunned roll around behind her and do heavy attacks until she turns back around, dodge her a bit then rinse & repeat.
2. The queen will allow 2-3 heavy hits to the front before she blocks, so to be safe do 2 heavy then roll away, when you roll back to her you can do the 2 hits again, once more rinse & repeat.
You can also combine the two, just make sure to roll away from her charges (I find the extra roll distance talent to be very useful), but try to stay near so you can get some extra hits to her back.
As for the Nekkers, don't ever block (don't block ever actually), just roll away and position yourself so that you are always facing the group (this applies to all enemies in the game really), if they get behind you, ROLL!
Heres why you don't want to block,
1. Blocking uses up Vigor, you always want this for Quen if you use it, or other spells. (haven't seen 1.2 patch notes nor have I played since 1.1 so I'm unaware if that was changed)
2. You still lose a tiny bit of HP when blocking, and leave yourself vulnerable to backstabs.
All in all it just takes a bit of getting used to, but it's not very hard at all.
EDIT: I thought of a third way for the queens. It's like the second method I listed but instead of rolling away use the Aard sign and do more heavy attacks, keep doing the Aard/attack until you run out of vigor, dodge her until you refill and then repeat.
Anyways, the big thing is that the game is bat att fighting groups and it is that with a reason and that reason is that they wanted the players to use all kinds of things: Signs, traps and bombes and not just sword play.
But I am rather curius to when you say that I shouldn't block and just run around and fight them all from the front. BEcaus it still doesn't help since I can only hit 1 at a time unless I am at an highe enuff lvl to have the Group Talent from the tree. Or am I missing somthing? Trust me I have tried several times but still no use.
All in all. The new fightin system has aloot of potential and is more fun then the one in TW1 but it still needs som work done.