cbarbagallo: No one here is saying that. But, I do think that this is a PR debacle. If the patch comes out soon and removes Secruomm and the forums come back soon, all this will be forgotten.
Well the thing about it is, no matter what, people will find negatives, and complain.
Had they said, look guys, we didn't get our forum up as we intended and we want this to be done simultaneous with our games release, so we are delaying it a week, people would have been just as mad and posting whining complaints.
It's always this way in the business...it doesn't matter how hard they try, how much good they do, the negative is always found, and pointed out. Sometimes founded, sometimes not.
In this case some of it IS founded, but some of it is being blown out of proportion in my mind.
NewYears1978: It's just like if I was trying to be the best husband I could be. Doing all I could to make life easy for my wife. Cooking, Cleaning the house, etc. If she starts criticizing me because I accidentally burned the steak...or I didn't clea to her standards. Eventually I stop trying and say screw it.
cloud8521: you burned the steak?! you ruined a PERFECTLY GOOD STEAK!? you ****ing monster. she was right to criticize you.
Muhahah! Honest truth, I burned the steak nearly every time I cooked in in our apartment. Because our stove was a piece of crap. Now we just got a house, we have a real stove, and a grill. Now the steaks turn out good =)
NewYears1978: Eventually I stop trying and say screw it.
pitfiend: Well they don't have the privilege to stop trying and say screw it, they need to make money and feed their kids, and I 'aint gonna give them any breaks, because they have my money - and if they want more of it in the future they need to do better than that.
This is kinda where you are wrong. When I said they would say screw it, I meant in terms of trying to make quality products for the fans.
If they are pushed away they will turn into another company like Bioware is with EA taking over. It wil be crap, rushed games, with tons of DLC and pay items, and still making money for them.
So no, the only people who lose when we push them, is us. We end up with crappier games, but at the same price tag...and for the most part the developer isn't going to take a huge hit in profits. See DA2.