What is the matter for DRM and Steam in that case? You can publish on Steam without moronic DRM schemes just fine.

Steam is a sort of DRM...steam is evil....

I'd buy it. don't care for steam much at all.

Yeah sort of, besides that you can install software just fine with it, get a lot of very nice frameworks with steamworks to use as a developer, and steam games do not even require steam to run.

Sure, developer can use Steamworks DRM methods, if they chose to, but that is not a requirement.

It's more of a personal thing. It's not about extra steam features or anything for me. It's just the principle of it all. I just like my games with no strings attached- no drm, no steam, no nothing. With that said, I do buy games on steam. If a game looks good and it is exclusive to steam then I'm ok with buying it on steam...no prob...but if I'm given a choice between a gog drm-free version or a steam version of a game, I always go with gog. Just personal preference.

Anyway, I already bought strike suit zero on gog, so gog is the version I will support. I will buy infinity on day one when it comes out on Good Old Games. I can't wait. I'm looking forward to it. ;)

Yep! but if you d'ont have internet conection, how do you play your games? the offline of steam is not the best sting there do....

And if one day for a reason or another steam crash and valve close is door, you can say goodbye to all your steam games... if gog close, no probleme my games are save on a hard drive...

so steam is evil....

What part about "do not even require steam to run" was unclear? Some steam games can simply be launched with their exe file, no steam attachment at all required.
And by the way, you can safe all your steam games on your hard drive as well.

But I agree, offline mode of steam could need some usability improvements. It got some last year iirc, but it is still far away from perfect. Even when it works for me, it is annoying for example that you can not bring multiple accounts into offline mode and can not switch between different accounts offline.

I beg to differ here : what 's client allow is only a backup , that's different to an installer.

so if you need to restore the game , you need the client.

All Steamworks games sold with a box , come to this form.

Personnaly i would legaly forbid this kind of method to sell a boxed game ; you don't have a copy of a game you a backup ; that's not the same thing.

even if in the end you get the final product.

And top of that many customers are fooled by this, because when u insert the disc in the drive , the client try to download the game , instead of using the restore option -> this is a silly approach.

You talk about those things as if they're a bonus. They're a negative to me.

I don't care about "random player #21324"'s highscore, hacked or not. I also don't care about the game automatically posting said highscore on facebook, twitter, myspace or whatever. That crap is wasted dev time for me, and even if Steam provides an easy interface for this it still takes time to implement & test.

I don´t care either about random player #21234.

I care about the high score of my wife. I care about the scores of my friends, its funny to beat their high score or get beaten. A motivation to do a level again to beat their scores, or beat my own.

The community features are really community features not some random posting to scrapbook.

I backed Strike Suit Zero on Kickstarter via Paypal at the $150 tier:

/STRIKE COMMANDER. In addition to the t-shirt and deluxe artbook, you'll also become a life-time subscriber to the Strike Suit universe. You'll get all future content for the game - missions, weapons, new suits etc - on the day of release.

I'm not 100% certain, but I think that being "a life-time subscriber to the Strike Suit universe" would include Strike Suit Infinity on the digital platform of my choosing.

Greetings Corporate-Loyalist-Valvebot. How's the Gabe worshipping coming along? Steam IS THE MORONIC DRM. And under British and European Law it is ILLEGAL. Can your miniscule brain not comprehend this? This makes makes me questions ones ethics. Is it the games you like? Or the pointless achievements, profiles etc. I quite frankly do not care for your ramblings - GOG.com is a website that sells DRM-Free games with no third party Malware included.

Disregard the facts all you like Steam is a turd covered with a bit of sugar so easy customers like you see achievements and forget the valid reasons as to why these DRM schemes are extremely bad for customer privacy and for the PC market in general.

The PC has always been an OPEN market and Steam's only purpose (As with GFWL, Origin, UPlay) is to fragment the market into consolised brackets. I laugh at the 'Community Features'. PC games used to come with their own P2P client side servers, dedicated servers, friends lists, in-game achievements. Community features used to be in-game not controlled by companies and/or third party software. If anything we have gone backwards.

I do not understand your mentality, you're extremely emotional & defensive over a piece of useless software. This is PC gaming - Steam does NOT equal PC gaming.

I refer you to my post on this exact topic;
[url=]http://www.gog.com/forum/general/reluctant_to_buy_non_steam_games_is_it_just_me/page8[/url]

If you enjoy using Steam, that is fine - to each their own. But do not try and ram your opinions down others throats because they disagree with you. You are posting on a Digital Distribution website that sells DRM-Free video-games. What kind of answers did you expect there Tony Blair?

Run along now, go and collect some more hats.

Moronic yank, how many fingers did you say you had up Gabe's fat arse? I of course crawled out of the United Kingdom, European Union - you know, the civilised & developed part of the world. Or did Fox News not teach you this? Then again I don't expect much from someone that cannot tell the difference between Equity and Profit.

Your post is the most useless and uneducated post I've read on here so far. You must be with the 'Illuminati'. How's life treating you anyway Rosie O'Donnell?

buddy, the only one who sounds like he is part of this "illuminati" is you. calm down. Ans, if you are so civilized, why do you resort to calling other people moronic yanks? and why are you letting your anger get the better of you?

now, getting this thread back on track, has anyone heard any news about infinity coming to gog?