I distinctly remember when I used to play the collector's edition way back when that I could roll while pulling up/pushing into a dive, which was great for strafing, dodging fire and just generally feeling cool.

However, when I hold the "roll" button on my joystick, (alt-3 on keyboard, weirdly), pulling left and right on the stick rolls the craft, but pulling back/pushing up changes the throttle level, rather than the pitch. This makes rolling while pulling back/pushing up impossible, and really makes flying the craft a lot less enjoyable than I remember.

Any ideas how to change this would be greatly appreciated. Maybe there's a key on the keyboard I can hold instead (although I've seen no likely candidate in the keyboard command list).

I'm using a PXN-2103 joystick, which seems to be working pretty well apart from this.

i assume people are mixing this up with xwing. i just checked all 3 versions, all show the same behaviour, throttle up/down, its even in the game manual.

Thanks for the quick responses... it's completely possible that I'm mixing up the two games... but I thought I remembered using the roll while pitching to do some fancy-looking dodging while flying head-on into fire in a shieldless TIE - oh well, the vagaries of memory.

You can do corkscrewst in the Windows versions while holding the roll button.

Yeah this absolutely flummuxed me when I first played Tie Fighter.

I mean, the strategy guide for X-Wing had previously drilled the 'Wotan Weave' into my gradeschooler's head, a maneuver which was just a corkscrew done by pitching and rolling.

Then here's Tie Fighter asking me to fly ships without shields where a Weave might be extremely useful....except I can't do it!

Really makes roll into an almost aesthetic feature like, oo that Star Destroyer is upside down...better roll it the right way up...since without combination with pitch its a pretty useless maneuver.

It is and I can totally do it. I'll post a video on youtube later if I get a chance.

Good to know it's possible... do you know if it's something to do with different joysticks? Or was there something you changed in the setup?

you"re not using joystick button 2 to do it, do you? what buttons are you using, explain to us! NAO!

just kidding, please explain exactly how you do it.

I can demonstrate it in a video when I get home, but here's basically how it works...

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See the button where your thumb goes on that joystick? I have that mapped to the Target in sights/Roll button. If I press and hold that button, all of a sudden I can roll with the X axis, and still pitch up/down with the Y axis. So I can corkscrew while holding that button

On my joystick, if I press and hold the Target in sights/Roll button and try to pitch up/down with the Y axis it actually controls the Thrusters. This behavior matches what is mentioned in the manual.
Only in X-Wing it works as expected.

Yep - same with me. I'm sure I could corkscrew back in the old days. Maybe it is a hardware bizarre hardware thing.

i dont get it, people are saying the can do a corkscrew by using the roll button but its IN THE FRIGGIN MANUAL that using button 2 plus forward/backwards does indeed accelerate/reduce speed.

HOW?

You know what guys, I'm currently playing through X-Wing so that's what I was talking about. I wasn't aware that Tie Fighter's roll button behaves differently.