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Dear Owlcat and community,

I'm playing this on Unfair difficulty, no modifications of any sort, and I'm wondering how the hell this happens. Screenshot provided.
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Thanks @OrDoS170

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QuadDamage85: Thanks @OrDoS170

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7 strength. rolled below 3 damage combined on a damage dice. 3 damage -2 penalty = 1 damage
finesse doesn't give you damage. just ab until you get slashing/piercing grace feat(bad for aldori cause you have to drop 2nd hand entirely) or 3 levels of rogue
aldori is the best fighter subclass for tanking and works really well with single class progression, but you can not afford to dump str on it if you are doing so. actually aldori gains literally nothing from going dex. best thing about the class that he can sport plate+shield and settle for dex13. dex aldori17/rogue3 can be done, but it's slow progression and you will be behind the curve all game.

technically you can go duelist with dex aldori too but it would be slow and painful in terms of progression(would end up something like aldori9/duelist7/monk2/stalwart1/vivisectionist1 at least that's what I would do were I to go this route or maybe take something with fast uncanny access for the last 2) but realistically all duelist does there is compensates for the need to go without a shield with no good mechanical reason for it as pure str aldori gets the same AC/damage and some attack on top of it without any expense and without the need to pump int.

if you want aldori-ish dex playstyle go sword saint magus with an elf. (I have detailed guide on dex scion that does the same but with cha instead if int). then you can go slashing grace with aldori sword and lose nothing for it. you also will pick up loads of AC along the way. most dex classes that dump str solve first 3 levels by taking tartuccio's crossbow as those are not affected by str at all. human can get slashing/peircing grace and finesse at lvl1 on any class with bonus martial feat or one of the three needed. fighters can get it by lvl2 on any race.
Post edited October 17, 2018 by InEffect
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QuadDamage85: Thanks @OrDoS170

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I thought that You wonder how (x2) is 1 dmg? Simple:
You rolled 1 on d8, then multiplied by 2 gives you 2. Now -2 made it 0 but because critical hits always do damage (unless reduced by enemy damage reduction) game set it to 1.
But true that combat logs is somewhat enigmatic.
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QuadDamage85: Thanks @OrDoS170

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Skladzien: I thought that You wonder how (x2) is 1 dmg? Simple:
You rolled 1 on d8, then multiplied by 2 gives you 2. Now -2 made it 0 but because critical hits always do damage (unless reduced by enemy damage reduction) game set it to 1.
But true that combat logs is somewhat enigmatic.
thats not how crits work. you roll 2x the dice separately on crit, not multiply your regular dice roll. you can see pretty detailed breakdown if you click on the roll in the log, not much enigmatic about it.
Post edited October 17, 2018 by InEffect
Looking at the screenshot...

1d8-2 damage is...uh, kinda low. Gonna be a slog to Slashing Grace, especially on unfair.

So, looks like the game is set to always do some kinda damage, possibly only on crits. You do 1d8-2 damage and rolled a 1 or a 2, so no damage, then apparently overrides for 1 damage...

In any case, the limited damage is due to your lacking in strength.
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aerinyes: Looking at the screenshot...

1d8-2 damage is...uh, kinda low. Gonna be a slog to Slashing Grace, especially on unfair.

So, looks like the game is set to always do some kinda damage, possibly only on crits. You do 1d8-2 damage and rolled a 1 or a 2, so no damage, then apparently overrides for 1 damage...

In any case, the limited damage is due to your lacking in strength.
I thought Weapon Finesse would have been all I needed since it adds dex to my damage modifier? At least that's how I've always understood it, and I've never had to get str before (though I come from the age of Neverwinter Nights)

https://imgur.com/a/6mrKLw8

This is with Slash Grace.
Post edited October 18, 2018 by QuadDamage85
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aerinyes: Looking at the screenshot...

1d8-2 damage is...uh, kinda low. Gonna be a slog to Slashing Grace, especially on unfair.

So, looks like the game is set to always do some kinda damage, possibly only on crits. You do 1d8-2 damage and rolled a 1 or a 2, so no damage, then apparently overrides for 1 damage...

In any case, the limited damage is due to your lacking in strength.
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QuadDamage85: I thought Weapon Finesse would have been all I needed since it adds dex to my damage modifier? At least that's how I've always understood it, and I've never had to get str before (though I come from the age of Neverwinter Nights)

https://imgur.com/a/6mrKLw8

This is with Slash Grace.
slashing grace needs you to have offhand empty. you clearly have shield there. I detailed how it works and how it can be done if you really want to go dex for lulz a few posts above.
Post edited October 18, 2018 by InEffect
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QuadDamage85: I thought Weapon Finesse would have been all I needed since it adds dex to my damage modifier? At least that's how I've always understood it, and I've never had to get str before (though I come from the age of Neverwinter Nights)
In Neverwinter nights (nor 1 neither 2) Weapon finesse NEVER add to your damage. It allows You to use ATTACK MODIFIER from dex instead of str for some light weapons (like rapiers, daggers, most of them are piercing ones). So i have no idea what Neverwinter have You been playing...
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aerinyes: So, looks like the game is set to always do some kinda damage, possibly only on crits. You do 1d8-2 damage and rolled a 1 or a 2, so no damage, then apparently overrides for 1 damage...
According to the Pathfinder rules a hit always does at least 1 damage, even if your damage roll is below that because of modifiers.

EDIT: I just checked the rules again and it actually should deal 1 nonlethal damage if your damage roll is below 1.
Post edited October 18, 2018 by silv4h