Posted April 19, 2020
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InEffect
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Posted April 19, 2020
meant give val or amiri a shining helmet. Doesn't exactly matter. And I'd probably toss abadar sacred ekun into the mix for another +2AC for everyone.
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InEffect
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Posted April 19, 2020
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I always play with very small condensed parties. Do you always play with 6? I never did before so I'm unsure if I can hit 20 with everyone at a reasonable pace.
Post edited April 19, 2020 by InEffect
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Posted April 21, 2020
Hi, I am starting a new LE game, and I was wondering what companions I should be using to fill out my party. I am playing a sylvan sorcerer mc, because I enjoy playing full casters, and I would like to use Valerie as a kinetic knight and Jaethal as the true follower of Urgathoa build. So far, I'm thinking Regongar, Nok-Nok, Kinetic Valerie, Jubilost, the kineticist sisters, and my mc (sylvan sorc). I just know that I really don't want do use Linzi or Octavia, as I dislike CG. At the beginning of the game, I will probably bring Tristian or Harrim along for extra heals. I am also going to use the "make Amiri great again" build in place of Nok-Nok before I get him. If you have any advice for what I should do it would be appreciated. (I am playing on challenging by the way)
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Li-Co
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It's linked in the main post at the bottom under Extras.
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Li-Co
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Posted April 23, 2020
Reporting a small error.
Varnhold Party: Bard gets a Bard Talent at lvl 6 but your build slot is empty there.
Edit: I assume it's Combat Trick -> Dazzling for that?
Varnhold Party: Bard gets a Bard Talent at lvl 6 but your build slot is empty there.
Edit: I assume it's Combat Trick -> Dazzling for that?
Post edited April 23, 2020 by -Rimiu-
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Varnhold Party: Bard gets a Bard Talent at lvl 6 but your build slot is empty there.
Edit: I assume it's Combat Trick -> Dazzling for that?
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Post edited April 23, 2020 by InEffect
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Li-Co
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Posted April 23, 2020
A friend of mine has been trying to make a ranged Bard build for the past few days but he lacks the PnP background. He tried looking up some of your builds and mix them but to no avail.
Therefore I wanted to ask if you have some tips for him, mainly class spread and stats and if it's not too much effort key feats. He knows that Melee Bard is superior but he really wants to play a ranged one with as much damage as possible crammed in. He is playing on Hard if that is important. Not Solo.
Thanks in advance for any help.
Therefore I wanted to ask if you have some tips for him, mainly class spread and stats and if it's not too much effort key feats. He knows that Melee Bard is superior but he really wants to play a ranged one with as much damage as possible crammed in. He is playing on Hard if that is important. Not Solo.
Thanks in advance for any help.
Post edited April 23, 2020 by -Rimiu-
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Therefore I wanted to ask if you have some tips for him, mainly class spread and stats and if it's not too much effort key feats. He knows that Melee Bard is superior but he really wants to play a ranged one with as much damage as possible crammed in. He is playing on Hard if that is important. Not Solo.
Thanks in advance for any help.
Divine hunter2/Bard 12/EA2/Slayer3/F1 would be close to the best you can do with a physical ranged approach. It's not insane damage, but with accomplished you'd have 6d6 sneak, 16BAB and an extra arrow from EA so that's better than nothing. Bit better, but slower one would be DH2/Ba11/EK5/EA2.
Note that you actually don't want to take 2nd DH level till pretty late. Saves are not worth it, but free feat and smite from DH1 are not too bad. Neither are amazing but then bard has no synergy from range apart from being a support, really. If I had to choose between the two I'd probably go thundercaller. At least it has some reason to exist with fascinate and a ton of decent enough control.
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Therefore I wanted to ask if you have some tips for him, mainly class spread and stats and if it's not too much effort key feats. He knows that Melee Bard is superior but he really wants to play a ranged one with as much damage as possible crammed in. He is playing on Hard if that is important. Not Solo.
Thanks in advance for any help.
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Divine hunter2/Bard 12/EA2/Slayer3/F1 would be close to the best you can do with a physical ranged approach. It's not insane damage, but with accomplished you'd have 6d6 sneak, 16BAB and an extra arrow from EA so that's better than nothing. Bit better, but slower one would be DH2/Ba11/EK5/EA2.
Note that you actually don't want to take 2nd DH level till pretty late. Saves are not worth it, but free feat and smite from DH1 are not too bad. Neither are amazing but then bard has no synergy from range apart from being a support, really. If I had to choose between the two I'd probably go thundercaller. At least it has some reason to exist with fascinate and a ton of decent enough control.
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kage1822
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Posted April 24, 2020
hey @InEffect, love your builds, but was wondering if there's a way to modify one that I'm trying to use in one of my playthroughs to suit my preference? the build in question is your Unfair Kineticist. These are the modifications, I'm hoping you could help with...
Race: Tiefling (unknown lineage)
Air instead of Earth
oh, this is for my MC, and if it matters I went with the Overwhelming Soul Archtype from Call of the Wild
Race: Tiefling (unknown lineage)
Air instead of Earth
oh, this is for my MC, and if it matters I went with the Overwhelming Soul Archtype from Call of the Wild
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kage1822
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Posted April 24, 2020
@InEffect, also do you have any builds for any of the Call of the Wild Mod?
Specifically for:
Hunter: Primal Companion Hunter
Warpriest: Champion of the Faith (Iomedae)
Specifically for:
Hunter: Primal Companion Hunter
Warpriest: Champion of the Faith (Iomedae)
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InEffect
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Posted April 24, 2020
I don't do mods or modded builds.
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Li-Co
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Edit: Nevermind. Please ignore this post.
Post edited April 24, 2020 by -Rimiu-