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I`ve played nearly all the Warband games and enjoyed them a lot and so, decided to grab the Viking Reforged version.
I was very disappointed that you cannot play a dark-skinned guy in that. Why?

If it`s because there were no black people there at the time (which is debateable) perhaps it could be theorised that a black traveller visited the Viking lands and became embroiled in its world?
Or maybe vikings travelled all the way to the Mediterranean and captured black\brown slaves and one of them escaped to lead his own life in Europe?
Or maybe a black male was adopted and proved himself a powerful warrior and was freed to live his life in Europe and England.

I notice you go out of your way to allow female characters even though the likelihood of female warriors is incredibly low to non-existent. You even give them more or less the ability to have the same strength options as men which is silly. In fact, black men would have had a greater chance to succeed over women in a world where male strength and the ability to fight is prized.

By the way I`m no sjw or feminist, but notice this hypocritical act of having females in this game that can be whatever they want, but black people don`t even get a look in?

So why no black or brown characters? It seems you were so bothered about including women you totally forgot about black men.

I don`t mind if he has penalties in a viking society because he`s black or brown, even if it means he can never hold high office or be king, in fact I would welcome it for the challenge, but don`t just omit a dark skinned character completely in the Character Creation.

Please include the ability to create a dark skinned male in Charcater Creation.

Thankyou.

p.s. This will be reflected in my review until fixed.
Post edited June 15, 2016 by Socratatus
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Socratatus: I`ve played nearly all the Warband games and enjoyed them a lot and so, decided to grab the Viking Reforged version.
I was very disappointed that you cannot play a dark-skinned guy in that. Why?

If it`s because there were no black people there at the time (which is debateable) perhaps it could be theorised that a black traveller visited the Viking lands and became embroiled in its world?
Or maybe vikings travelled all the way to the Mediterranean and captured black\brown slaves and one of them escaped to lead his own life in Europe?
Or maybe a black male was adopted and proved himself a powerful warrior and was freed to live his life in Europe and England.

I notice you go out of your way to allow female characters even though the likelihood of female warriors is incredibly low to non-existent. You even give them more or less the ability to have the same strength options as men which is silly. In fact, black men would have had a greater chance to succeed over women in a world where male strength and the ability to fight is prized.

By the way I`m no sjw or feminist, but notice this hypocritical act of having females in this game that can be whatever they want, but black people don`t even get a look in?

So why no black or brown characters? It seems you were so bothered about including women you totally forgot about black men.

I don`t mind if he has penalties in a viking society because he`s black or brown, even if it means he can never hold high office or be king, in fact I would welcome it for the challenge, but don`t just omit a dark skinned character completely in the Character Creation.

Please include the ability to create a dark skinned male in Charcater Creation.

Thankyou.

p.s. This will be reflected in my review until fixed.
A fast and simple reply, if you're a black guy then you're a slave and you can't play 1 v all factions/lords/pirates.
A white female warrior are more reliable to exist than black warrior.

So your complain have no point.

If you want to play it anyways search for a mod. (I'm pretty secure there is any about it)
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Socratatus: I`ve played nearly all the Warband games and enjoyed them a lot and so, decided to grab the Viking Reforged version.
I was very disappointed that you cannot play a dark-skinned guy in that. Why?

If it`s because there were no black people there at the time (which is debateable) perhaps it could be theorised that a black traveller visited the Viking lands and became embroiled in its world?
Or maybe vikings travelled all the way to the Mediterranean and captured black\brown slaves and one of them escaped to lead his own life in Europe?
Or maybe a black male was adopted and proved himself a powerful warrior and was freed to live his life in Europe and England.

I notice you go out of your way to allow female characters even though the likelihood of female warriors is incredibly low to non-existent. You even give them more or less the ability to have the same strength options as men which is silly. In fact, black men would have had a greater chance to succeed over women in a world where male strength and the ability to fight is prized.

By the way I`m no sjw or feminist, but notice this hypocritical act of having females in this game that can be whatever they want, but black people don`t even get a look in?

So why no black or brown characters? It seems you were so bothered about including women you totally forgot about black men.

I don`t mind if he has penalties in a viking society because he`s black or brown, even if it means he can never hold high office or be king, in fact I would welcome it for the challenge, but don`t just omit a dark skinned character completely in the Character Creation.

Please include the ability to create a dark skinned male in Charcater Creation.

Thankyou.

p.s. This will be reflected in my review until fixed.
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Dash95: A fast and simple reply, if you're a black guy then you're a slave and you can't play 1 v all factions/lords/pirates.
A white female warrior are more reliable to exist than black warrior.

So your complain have no point.

If you want to play it anyways search for a mod. (I'm pretty secure there is any about it)
Rubbish. In the game you can even start your career from being a slave.

Your need to absolve the nonsense of women warriors as ok, but dark skinned warriors as not, has made you racist.

If the game omitted women characters from the game then I would not have a problem since I would see it`s strictly trying to adhere to historical reality. Again, the fact that it allows women characters to be warriors and to attain any position they want (completely ahistorical), but does not even allow a dark skinned person to be in the game shows prejudice. It`s pleasing females simply to please them, but then disregarding any dark-skinned characters. It`s one rule for white females, but another rule for blacks.

You can come out with all the excuses you want, but it is clearly prejudiced.
Post edited June 16, 2016 by Socratatus
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Dash95: A fast and simple reply, if you're a black guy then you're a slave and you can't play 1 v all factions/lords/pirates.
A white female warrior are more reliable to exist than black warrior.

So your complain have no point.

If you want to play it anyways search for a mod. (I'm pretty secure there is any about it)
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Socratatus: Rubbish. In the game you can even start your career from being a slave.

Your need to absolve the nonsense of women warriors as ok, but dark skinned warriors as not, has made you racist.

If the game omitted women characters from the game then I would not have a problem since I would see it`s strictly trying to adhere to historical reality. Again, the fact that it allows women characters to be warriors and to attain any position they want (completely ahistorical), but does not even allow a dark skinned person to be in the game shows prejudice. It`s pleasing females simply to please them, but then disregarding any dark-skinned characters. It`s one rule for white females, but another rule for blacks.

You can come out with all the excuses you want, but it is clearly prejudiced.
Muh racist, implying i'm white no? What about if i'm black. Well woman, can't have any feud but can fight as a viking.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shieldmaiden

Ok, I don't give a fuck.
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Socratatus: I`ve played nearly all the Warband games and enjoyed them a lot and so, decided to grab the Viking Reforged version.
I was very disappointed that you cannot play a dark-skinned guy in that. Why?

If it`s because there were no black people there at the time (which is debateable) perhaps it could be theorised that a black traveller visited the Viking lands and became embroiled in its world?
Or maybe vikings travelled all the way to the Mediterranean and captured black\brown slaves and one of them escaped to lead his own life in Europe?
Or maybe a black male was adopted and proved himself a powerful warrior and was freed to live his life in Europe and England.

I notice you go out of your way to allow female characters even though the likelihood of female warriors is incredibly low to non-existent. You even give them more or less the ability to have the same strength options as men which is silly. In fact, black men would have had a greater chance to succeed over women in a world where male strength and the ability to fight is prized.
Indeed, it's a stretch to allow female characters. But sorry, allowing black characters is even more of a stretch.
After all, women still were around half of the population in that period and area, but there weren't nearly as many blacks.
There's also another thing: skin color is not as important as gender when it comes to identifying with your character.
Oh, yes. Homosexuals, disabled people and rap music fans feel their rights infringed too!
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I`ve taken this up with the Devs themselves. Your hypocritical stance that it`s ok if it`s females because there`s a lot of them then and `vagina`, but not ok with a black guy because `colour` despite my detailed reasonings and facts goes to show just how racist you truly are.