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amok: I would say that GameMaker is a very good entry level piece of software. You can start out with P'n'C interface, and as you learn and progress you will gradually move over to the command line. In my experience, no other game creator software can meet you on the lowest level like this. Granted, this has its drawbacks also, if you progress more and more you will find it limiting, but until then it is recommended.
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tfishell: Sounds good! I'll probably end up ponying up the 35. I've learned a lot from Actionscript, but it's certainly time-consuming and I really don't think I'll ever "fully" graspe the programmer mindset.

I'm curious: I know the engine is 2D based, but can one create more than just platformers? I know Hotline Miami was created on Gamemaker; I was wondering if one could create something isometric in art style.
depends a little bit on what you mean when you say isometric. If you mean isometric as in psudo 3D, then yes, as it is really just 2D shifted 30 degrees around, i.e seen from a different perspective. If you mean isometric as in true 3D, then no.
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amok: depends a little bit on what you mean when you say isometric. If you mean isometric as in psudo 3D, then yes, as it is really just 2D shifted 30 degrees around, i.e seen from a different perspective.
Yes, like Fallout.

From what I've heard Unity3D is best for true 3D games, but of course you want some programming experience with that, which I still have to get. (I'm planning on buying this book eventually: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1430248998/sr=8-1/qid=1388007620/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&qid=1388007620&seller=&sr=8-1)
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amok: depends a little bit on what you mean when you say isometric. If you mean isometric as in psudo 3D, then yes, as it is really just 2D shifted 30 degrees around, i.e seen from a different perspective.
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tfishell: Yes, like Fallout.

From what I've heard Unity3D is best for true 3D games, but of course you want some programming experience with that, which I still have to get. (I'm planning on buying this book eventually: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1430248998/sr=8-1/qid=1388007620/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&qid=1388007620&seller=&sr=8-1)
Fallot is pseudo 3D. It is possible, but not easy, though.
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MaximumBunny: They do this promo every so often and I have the tendency to miss it. Not this time though! :P
Nice, thanks for the heads up. I was too late the last time around.
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fablefox: While you may voice your opinion, sadly, you are wrong on all point.
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geminidomino: That's rather arrogant of you. Looking at the API documentation for each of them, I've got to agree with HeadClot. Yeah, Game Maker offers the "click and drool" interface, so if all you're after is making the next Android/iOS shovelware, then go ahead and fork over too-many-hundred bucks for it. If you don't understand (or even worse, can't even see the how the backend coding works, you're just going to run up against the limitations of the system when you try to do anything really innovative.

This require development and they have the right to charge for it to pay developer salary.
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geminidomino: And we have the right to consider it an overpriced toy and not worth the money.
I'm not being arrogant. I'm pointing out the obvious. Game Maker specialty IS click and create enviroment with a lot of game functions built in. Marketed as such and targeted as such. To compare open source programming libraries with it is misleading.

If you think the export pricing is expensive, then say it so, to accuse them of nickle and dime just like HeadClot is wrong.

In the end of the day, you must download the demo, test it and see if it worth the price, and also if it fit your need.

What people failed to realize is that now you are able to make games for the main platfrom for free (without export).

If you plan to develop game that require serious programming and require the tool that support that, more power to you. But for a lot of people, Game Make good enough.

https://www.yoyogames.com/showcase

My last post for this topic, since someone already went through character attack by accusing me of arrogant.

edit:

all engine have limitations. Which is why even UDK have source code licensing - so you can extend it as needed. but not everyone require source code licensing.
Post edited February 26, 2014 by fablefox
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tfishell: Yes, like Fallout.

From what I've heard Unity3D is best for true 3D games, but of course you want some programming experience with that, which I still have to get. (I'm planning on buying this book eventually: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1430248998/sr=8-1/qid=1388007620/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&qid=1388007620&seller=&sr=8-1)
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amok: Fallot is pseudo 3D. It is possible, but not easy, though.
+1

It is not easy making a full 3D game. I am currently scaling back my design for my game. Releasing Expansions is a must for the game I want to make. Unity is awesome for making 3D games. Do not bother with engine such as Cryengine and UDK unless you really want to go down that path. Just my 2 Cents as I have used allot of game engines (UDK, Cryengine, COCOS2d, etc.) Primarily for prototyping my game.

If you do not want to go down the path of Unity3D there is always the GoDot Engine which is awesome! However it is open source so do not expect dedicated support , Bug fixes, and the like.. However if you are a cheap person (Like myself) who does not want to pay for a license for Unity then use godot.

Once again my 2 Cents. :)
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MaximumBunny: They do this promo every so often and I have the tendency to miss it. Not this time though! :P

https://www.yoyogames.com/studio - Download, install, open, and it should give you a choice of 3 licensing options (Free, Standard, Standard Licensing). The UI had a couple of problems for me starting up...just restart it if that happens with you.

Click on the Standard one, add your email and hit Register, paste key from email, and Activate. Done. Any future upgrades to Pro if you need the modules (HTML5/Android/IOS doesn't work in the Standard apparently) comes at 50% off. But you'll easily make that from the sales of your first game. ^_-
Thanks for this info. +rep.
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fablefox: I'm not being arrogant. I'm pointing out the obvious. Game Maker specialty IS click and create enviroment with a lot of game functions built in. Marketed as such and targeted as such. To compare open source programming libraries with it is misleading.
You explicitly said that his opinion is "wrong", and claim to point out the "obvious" which is actually nothing more than your own.
Construct 2!

https://www.scirra.com

Easy like game maker. All the exporters and updates are for free. Worth it for 79 quid. It's not on sale but I thought I'd mention it.

It also has a free version with a few limitations.
Thanks for sharing this and +1! :D
So https://www.yoyogames.com/buy/studio_pro still shows as 99.99 - what's up with that? I want to buy it today because the promo ends Sunday, but not sure what's going on.
Cheers MaximumBunny, this one has been on my "to be evaluated" list for a bit, so even nicer that I can snag it for free. +1
Well, I've installed it and requested the standard license. So far it hasn't shown up in my email yet, though of course the "confirm your email subscription" email was there in a heartbeat. Didn't find a key on that one. Anyone else having trouble registering?
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IAmSinistar: Well, I've installed it and requested the standard license. So far it hasn't shown up in my email yet, though of course the "confirm your email subscription" email was there in a heartbeat. Didn't find a key on that one. Anyone else having trouble registering?
Slow servers, the splash screen being broken...it does have some errors. Make sure it doesn't end up in spam or sent to your POP address, cause that can make it seem like it's not in your inbox depending on your settings. You could also try another mail/mail service.

Worst case scenario if it persists would be contacting their support and getting it done manually.
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MaximumBunny: Slow servers, the splash screen being broken...it does have some errors. Make sure it doesn't end up in spam or sent to your POP address, cause that can make it seem like it's not in your inbox depending on your settings. You could also try another mail/mail service.

Worst case scenario if it persists would be contacting their support and getting it done manually.
Thanks, the email finally came through, so hopefully I'm good to go. Testing the key now. :)